Re:Sam Altman Seeks Trillions of Dollars to Reshape Business...
by jszymborski on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:32PM
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While I doubt OpenAI will be a good fit for semiconductors, my understanding is PyTorch and TensorFlow have been really good at embracing new accelerators, largely due to XLA.
PyTorch, TF, and JAX work great on TPUs. Adoption is low bc they are not really available outside the Google cloud.
Re:Sam Altman Seeks Trillions of Dollars to Reshape Business...
by Cacti on Friday February 09, 2024 @09:00AM
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I mean, it took almost a decade to get there.
Re:Sam Altman Seeks Trillions of Dollars to Reshape Business...
by jszymborski on Friday February 09, 2024 @09:07AM
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Right, but that was for XLA no? I think (not an expert) that it compiles code from franeworks into a lower-level IR.
That's gotta be way easier, no?
Re:Sam Altman Seeks Trillions of Dollars to Reshape Business...
by coredog64 on Friday February 09, 2024 @06:48PM
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AWS uses tricks to accelerate PyTorch with Inferentia/Trainium. Haven’t used it, but I have tried the equivalent for Apple silicon and rage quit after wasting half a day.
Re:Sam Altman Seeks Trillions of Dollars to Reshape Business...
by bbcc90 on Friday February 09, 2024 @03:48AM
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If you are going to go vertical then do it properly.
OpenAI could just build their own framework for internal use that works well on their silicon (see Jax+tpu)
Their starting point? Triton plus some triton libs. Jax chipped away at TF like this, and no reason why Triton can’t do the same to PyTorch.
And if you fuck that part up in any one of a dozen places, no one will use it, because the adoption cost is too high, or your implementation was 20% slower and so everything costs 20% more to use and no one uses it.
This is why you see things like TPUs never really damage NVIDIA, but why basically everyone is focused on open standards and open software. Basically the entire tech industry is using this approach as a way to slowly peel away the layers of this software until enough has been removed that NVIDIA can no longer use it as a moat.