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Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by rob74 on Thursday February 08, 2024 @05:31PM (#39308699)
Gem-in-eye? Ouch!

Also, Gemini was appropriate for the space program because (a) there were two astronauts in the capsule and (b) because of the constellation, "aiming for the stars" and all that. For the Google project however I can't come up with a plausible explanation - Google doesn't even try to give a reason for the name either.

Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by cooper_ganglia on Thursday February 08, 2024 @05:40PM (#39308792)
From The Decoder: >In April 2023, Alphabet announced the merger of its two AI units, Google Brain and Deepmind. The resulting Google Deepmind was to focus on developing large multimodal AI models. It was a big move that showed how much pressure Google was under due to the massive success of ChatGPT. Jeff Dean, head of Google Brain until the merger with Deepmind, became the new merger's chief scientist, with a direct line to Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai. Dean now explains that the name Gemini, Latin for "twin," is directly related to the merger.

From Jeff Dean's Twitter:

>Gemini is Latin for "twins".

>The Gemini effort came about because we had different teams working on language modeling, and we knew we wanted to start to work together. The twins are the folks in the legacy Brain team (many from the PaLM/PaLM-2 effort) and the legacy DeepMind team (many from the Chinchilla effort) that started to work together on the ambitious multimodal model project we called Gemini, eventually joined by many people from all across Google. Gemini was also was the Nasa project that was the bridge to the moon between the Mercury and Apollo programs.

The Decoder article - https://the-decoder.com/how-googles-gemini-ai-model-got-its-...

Jeff Dean's Twitter Post - https://twitter.com/JeffDean/status/1733580264859926941

Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by ferfumarma on Thursday February 08, 2024 @06:27PM (#39309245)
Bicameral would have been better, IMO
Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by TaylorAlexander on Thursday February 08, 2024 @07:41PM (#39309868)
It's more on the nose but probably less right from a marketing perspective.
Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by stefan_ on Saturday February 10, 2024 @05:24AM (#39325082)
It is funny how there is all this elaborate discussion here when it was just corporate officers jerking each other off all along. Occam’s razor.
Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by facialwipe on Thursday February 08, 2024 @07:19PM (#39309691)
During Project Gemini, it was pronounced it Gem-in-ee.

https://youtu.be/JeAUx6-vSmc?feature=shared

Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by dhosek on Thursday February 08, 2024 @07:57PM (#39310020)
Which is closer to the proper Latin pronunciation (which would have a hard G although ecclesiastical Latin would have a soft G).
Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by CydeWeys on Thursday February 08, 2024 @05:44PM (#39308827)
I mean it makes sense to me. The AI is your digital assistant. It's a relationship between two minds, man and machine.
Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by gnicholas on Thursday February 08, 2024 @06:05PM (#39309037)
I see that angle, but those two things are complementary, not identical. It's not a clone of me — it's something that I ask questions of because I don't know the answer. If it were pitched as a bot that would draft email responses for me automatically, then maybe I would see it fitting better as my 'twin'.
Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by CydeWeys on Thursday February 08, 2024 @06:10PM (#39309075)
> it's something that I ask questions of because I don't know the answer

I think you're reading too much into what a twin is. It's not a copy! Real-life twins ask each other questions all the time, because just because one of them learns something doesn't mean the other one automatically learns it too via mind-meld.

Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by gnicholas on Thursday February 08, 2024 @06:21PM (#39309191)
I'm not saying all twins are identical. But they are all of the same species. What I want in an assistant is that it is very different from me. It has perfect memory and knows lots of things that I don't know.
Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by CydeWeys on Thursday February 08, 2024 @06:24PM (#39309224)
You're using an overly strict definition of the word and over-interpreting it to boot. Consider this definition:

> something containing or consisting of two matching or corresponding parts.

Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by gnicholas on Thursday February 08, 2024 @07:24PM (#39309739)
It sounds like you're thinking of the adjective form of the word, which is why you are thinking of a much broader definition. I was using the noun form, since Gemini are noun twins.

If we were talking about the word "twins" in the abstract, the broader definition might make sense. But we aren't — we're talking about Gemini. If that conjures up general notions of "matched-ness" for you, that's great. When I think about Gemini, I think about mythological twins. I don't think about corresponding parts that complement each other.

For a product name to be successful, it should appeal to a wide range of people. If I'm way out in left field on this one, perhaps they've found a great name. But I would point out that my comment, which is critical of the name change, is the very first comment in the entire thread. I would take that as evidence that most people don't see the name and think "oh, it's like complementary items, like my brain and the AI".

To be clear, I was shocked to see this comment above all substantive discussion of the new release. I would have thought it would have been buried under examples of ways in which Ultra is better/worse than some other LLM.

Re:Gemini Ultra now available in Google Bard by magicalist on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:21PM (#39311347)
> For a product name to be successful, it should appeal to a wide range of people.

Honestly, Google is called "Google". ChatGPT is called "ChatGPT". Maybe it'll be a joke, maybe people won't think about what they're calling it after 30 seconds.

This conversation is taking itself a bit too seriously for what's drifting into Pepsi logo gravitational pull territory, though.

> But I would point out that my comment, which is critical of the name change, is the very first comment in the entire thread.

Sure. Everyone has an opinion on what color the bike shed should be, too.