Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF
by genocidicbunny on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:38PM
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Only if you have right of way. You still treat it as a yield, which means if you don't have a right of way, you stop completely.
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Rolling is usually slow enough to stop on a dime from my experience. The problem is cyclists who continue at full speed and then decide to react last second.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF
by genocidicbunny on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:01AM
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And I am willing to concede that on a bike, as long as you are just slow rolling and not impinging on the right of way such that it confuses other drivers, it's fine. But I have also seen plenty of cyclists who slow roll into the middle of the lane and then act indignant when they get honked at for blocking traffic; At that point, there's very little difference from having just blown through the intersection at full speed.
Yes there is a hostility between drivers and bikers and bikers and cars, where they both build up resentment and settled for this hostile middle ground where they both treat the others poorly.
Not to mention plenty of people in both are just dumb or ignorant of their surroundings
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF
by ExoticPearTree on Thursday February 08, 2024 @03:48AM
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Just to nitpick a little, let's use the word cyclists, not bikers. I feel that bikers actually obey traffic signs more than cyclists do.
> Just to nitpick a little, let's use the word cyclists, not bikers
Humans are capable of gleaning from context.
> I feel that bikers actually obey traffic signs more than cyclists do.
Motorcycles have completely different traffic laws, both legally and socially... so yes they would follow car style traffic rules more closely than a cyclist.
Sounds like you're deliberately using a longer, more activist-sounding word to "other" people you don't like.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF
by ExoticPearTree on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:46AM
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It is because I ride a motorcycle also I feel like putting me in the same basket with cyclists is not fair.