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Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by dmix on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:21AM (#39298544)
Yes there is a hostility between drivers and bikers and bikers and cars, where they both build up resentment and settled for this hostile middle ground where they both treat the others poorly.

Not to mention plenty of people in both are just dumb or ignorant of their surroundings

Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by ExoticPearTree on Thursday February 08, 2024 @03:48AM (#39299766)
Just to nitpick a little, let's use the word cyclists, not bikers. I feel that bikers actually obey traffic signs more than cyclists do.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by dmix on Thursday February 08, 2024 @04:00PM (#39307621)
> Just to nitpick a little, let's use the word cyclists, not bikers

Humans are capable of gleaning from context.

> I feel that bikers actually obey traffic signs more than cyclists do.

Motorcycles have completely different traffic laws, both legally and socially... so yes they would follow car style traffic rules more closely than a cyclist.

Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by lmm on Thursday February 08, 2024 @05:25PM (#39308633)
Sounds like you're deliberately using a longer, more activist-sounding word to "other" people you don't like.
Re:Waymo Hits Cyclist in SF by ExoticPearTree on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:46AM (#39324642)
It is because I ride a motorcycle also I feel like putting me in the same basket with cyclists is not fair.