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Re:Thirteen Ways of Looking at Art by prewett on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @03:02PM (#39293525)
I’m really tired of “art” needing to have an edgy message. All this messagey art doesn’t have the one quality I want in art: beauty. Why can’t art celebrate the good and beautiful in the world? What value does focusing on all the ugly stuff in the world have? It’s easy to find dirt in the ground, but rare to find gold; why not focus on the gold?
Re:Thirteen Ways of Looking at Art by progmetaldev on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @05:25PM (#39295134)
The issue is that everyone has a different definition of what is beauty. Sometimes focusing on the ugly helps to confront it in a way that isn't possible outside of art, for example, death. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think it's very subjective, so you may find some things edgy and ugly while I find beauty and a way to connect to a difficult concept.
Re:Thirteen Ways of Looking at Art by freejazz on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @05:44PM (#39295351)
Art doesn't have to have a "message" to be "edgy" and to say that art doesn't celebrate the beautiful in the world makes me think you don't engage with much contemporary art. What it makes me think is that you engage with art by reading about other people's reactions to the type of art you are decrying, and then jumping to the conclusion that is what makes up contemporary art.
Re:Thirteen Ways of Looking at Art by Fricken on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @06:42PM (#39295852)
Art isn't beautiful if it's a cliche, and that makes it difficult. You can't just keep churning out the same kind of stuff and expect it to resonate the same way each time.
Re:Thirteen Ways of Looking at Art by lmm on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @07:54PM (#39296464)
On the contrary, most great art - the kind people actually like, not the weird economic/signalling game sort - comes from exactly that, churning out the same kind of stuff.
Re:Thirteen Ways of Looking at Art by Fricken on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:03AM (#39303540)
Populism is for the artistically illiterate. Maybe a typical 5 years old thinks apple juice and hotdogs are the height of culinary arts, but their opinion is worthless to me because they're too uncultivated to know any better.