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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @02:46PM (#39293299)
They'll never be outlawed. There are too many use cases for 300+ mile trips in remote areas where recharging isn't possible or less remote areas where it isn't practical.
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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by riku_iki on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @04:04PM (#39294302)
There are laws in effect already: https://www.gov.ca.gov/2020/09/23/governor-newsom-announces-...
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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by katbyte on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @05:48PM (#39295387)
If it’s anything like Canada it still allows for hybrid. Banning everything but BEV will never happen because Bev will never work for a small subset of users
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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by riku_iki on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @06:03PM (#39295537)
they have similar law in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-electric-vehicles-20....
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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by katbyte on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:16PM (#39297574)
That’s literally the one I was talking about, it will still permit hybrid and there is no requirement for everything to be a BEV
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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by riku_iki on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:19PM (#39297599)
> it will still permit hybrid

article says plugin hybrid, not just hybrid, which is kinda loophole.

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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by katbyte on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:41PM (#39297761)
a hybrid is still a hybrid that you can just keep filling up with gas and never plug-in.
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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by riku_iki on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:30PM (#39298162)
yes, though in California cars required to be 0 emission by 2035
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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by katbyte on Thursday February 08, 2024 @02:17AM (#39299236)
no? it seems to be the exact same rules as canada?

> new cars sold in 2035 and beyond are zero-emission vehicles which includes battery electric vehicles, plug-in hybrid electric vehicles and fuel cell electric vehicles.

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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by riku_iki on Thursday February 08, 2024 @02:34AM (#39299345)
I can't find any mentions of hybrids nor plugins in actual executive order: https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/9.23.20-EO...

it just says: zero emission, and hybrids are obviously not

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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by katbyte on Thursday February 08, 2024 @03:51AM (#39299793)
that is the exact same language used for the canadian law. "zero emission" includes hybrid

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/documents/cars-and-light-tr...

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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by riku_iki on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:19AM (#39302917)
your page is not law.
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Re:Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build batte... by katbyte on Thursday February 08, 2024 @07:04PM (#39309566)
And the law does actually not define “zero emissions” as a car that makes no emissions lol hybrids are permitted by how it defines them
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