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Re:The world is awful. The world is much better. The world c... by MrVandemar on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @04:13AM (#39286293)
> Degrowth is murder, anyone promoting it is evil.

That's some emotive rhetoric there. I'm thinking that you're pretty passionate about the subject, and therefore not remotely objective.

Re:The world is awful. The world is much better. The world c... by tomp on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @04:16AM (#39286320)
I have used objective reasoning to conclude that degrowth is murder. Now I'm passionately opposing it. Same with Nazism, Communism, Decolonization, Hamas, etc.
Re:The world is awful. The world is much better. The world c... by Miraltar on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @04:30AM (#39286413)
How do you define murder ?
Re:The world is awful. The world is much better. The world c... by tomp on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @04:37AM (#39286449)
children dying because you don't produce enough food to feed them. people dying because your economy cannot support high technology required to make advanced drugs. old people freezing to death because you don't produce enough energy to heat their homes

this isn't a hypothetical. Look at any communist regime!

Re:The world is awful. The world is much better. The world c... by wruza on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @05:31AM (#39286826)
Yeah, right, but gppp’s degrowth means “not producing more humans than needed followed by food reduction”, not “starving the excess to death”. You’re seeing what isn’t there (and are all over the place in general, which makes it hard to reason).
Re:The world is awful. The world is much better. The world c... by MrVandemar on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @05:45AM (#39286907)
Again, these emotive arguments: Children dying, sick people dying, old people dying.

None of that is actually murder. I don't think it's great, but it's not murder. However, I do wonder on your position on abortion? And preventative and responsible birth control? Would you count any of that as murder?

(There are plenty of fascist dictatorships and corrupt regiemes you could go for, but you pick "communism"?)

Re:The world is awful. The world is much better. The world c... by fennecfoxy on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @12:35PM (#39291470)
Pretty sure it's a logical fallacy to group the current argument with widely agreed and totally unrelated bads.