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Re:OKRs Are Bullshit by sc68cal on Tuesday February 06, 2024 @01:08PM (#39278016)
Yes but it's always framed as a failure of either procedure or the people they manage that failed them. Management itself can never fail it can only be failed
Re:OKRs Are Bullshit by mardifoufs on Tuesday February 06, 2024 @05:10PM (#39281454)
Do you blame Word for documents that make 0 sense because the contents are incoherent? Because that's basically what's happening here. The OKR in question were non nonsense and contradictory, but that's completely irrelevant to if OKRs are useful or not.
Re:OKRs Are Bullshit by xorcist on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @04:54AM (#39286551)
Well, it should at least settle any claim that OKRs are useful in themselves. They need to be useful to be useful. "Useful things are useful" would make for a very short management book though.

We're also getting very close to a "no true scotsman" argument. If something has been tried several times and the outcome never came out as expected, maybe there's something more to it than that it wasn't implemented completely right. Not everything that's good in theory is useful in the real world.

Re:OKRs Are Bullshit by scott_w on Tuesday February 06, 2024 @04:28PM (#39280904)
I really don’t see how this counters my point at all…