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Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by epcoa on Monday February 05, 2024 @12:14PM (#39263640)
> Still, it doesn’t really change the upshot

Indeed it does not, which made the omission more strange or innocent. What was ridiculous was the apologia subthread.

> small tourism operators who are often far less rigorous in their safety practices, with relatively low-hour pilots.

There have been some improvements (in part due to these accidents) but this isn’t so far off from the regionals which was definitely a factor in both Comair and Colgan.

But crucially the majors are going to sell you a connecting ticket on them like any other, and they code share and mile just the same. Many of them are wholly owned to boot.

Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by stouset on Monday February 05, 2024 @12:40PM (#39263997)
It was not my intent to exclude regionals operating regularly-scheduled white-label service for the majors.

It was my intent to exclude microscopic commercial operators doing charter flights, tourism, and other similar activities.

I sincerely apologize for the omission, I did not recognize that that Comair flight was operating under the United banner.

Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by TylerE on Monday February 05, 2024 @02:18PM (#39265666)
Then you also have to count https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalk%27s_Ocean_Airways_Flight... and it's 20 fatalities. That was a regularly scheduled flight by a US carrier.
Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by stouset on Monday February 05, 2024 @03:15PM (#39266483)
Chalk’s Ocean was not a major airline and it was not a regional airline performing white-label service for a major airline.

I hope you can recognize that a company privately operating a fleet of seven floatplanes is not particularly relevant to a discussion about the safety of mass passenger air travel, in much the same way that a carnival operating a rollercoaster is not meaningful when discussing passenger rail.

Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by TylerE on Monday February 05, 2024 @03:18PM (#39266533)
Why isn't it relevant? They obeyed the exact same rules and regulations (FAR Part 121). That's the exact same part of theregs that applies to Delta and United. They weren't a charter or sightseeing operator.

They were, prior to the their closure, the oldest operating airline in the US and something like #3 worldwide, post-dating only KLM and one of the other European flag carriers. (Lufthansa, maybe? I don't have the list handy)

Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by stouset on Monday February 05, 2024 @06:35PM (#39268713)
I'm pretty sure the US majors aren't flying airframes that haven't rolled off a production line in half a century, from manufacturers that shuttered their doors over a decade prior.

I'm also pretty sure that you, nor anyone you know, nor anyone they know has ever flown on Chalk's.

Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by TylerE on Monday February 05, 2024 @07:18PM (#39269092)
Then you're pretty surely wrong. I visited the Bahamas a number of times as a kid.

Your whole approach here feels rather bad faith/no true Scotsman-y. Of course you’ll have no fatal crashes if you say every fatal crash doesn’t count for some reason or another as not a real crash.