Re:Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth: Ingrid Ro...
by at_a_remove on Friday February 02, 2024 @04:46PM
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The best one I heard, I am pretty sure was from a Stephen Baxter novel, was our tendency to create valuable "caches" of resources.
Re:Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth: Ingrid Ro...
by jimbokun on Friday February 02, 2024 @05:22PM
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> This presupposes there is some way to know what human nature is.
Empirical observation.
Look what happened in all the 20th century communist countries.
Re:Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth: Ingrid Ro...
by PaulDavisThe1st on Friday February 02, 2024 @05:37PM
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Empirical observation is only a way to determine what is, and not what could be.
Since we know that human behavior ("nature") is substantively malleable, we need to know what could be, not merely what is.
Re:Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth: Ingrid Ro...
by jimbokun on Friday February 02, 2024 @05:50PM
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That's the problem.
It's not ethical to perform experiments on human subjects without their explicit consent.
That's why the Institutional Review Board was created:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_review_board
You can't just perform experiments on large groups of people to see what will happen.
Re:Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth: Ingrid Ro...
by PaulDavisThe1st on Friday February 02, 2024 @05:54PM
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So in short, neither you nor I know what human nature is, and thus setting up criteria for social organization on whether it aligns with "human nature" is impossible, and a foolish goal.
Re:Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth: Ingrid Ro...
by vonjuice on Friday February 02, 2024 @09:05PM
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There is a sort of sleight of hand being performed here. Communism is being blamed for the consequences it has on its own country.
Capitalism on the other hand, you can look at and say "look how well it works for this country", because meanwhile it is doing terrible things to other countries.
Re:Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth: Ingrid Ro...
by kuratkull on Saturday February 03, 2024 @02:38AM
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What horrible things, to what countries?
Re:Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth: Ingrid Ro...
by vonjuice on Saturday February 03, 2024 @03:22PM
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Vietnam? Invading Iraq for oil? The multiple coups in Latin America to establish an authoritarian government? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...
The best definition I've ever found is "altruistic and cooperative with an in-group, competitive and aggressive towards out-groups".
And that doesn't say much at all on this particular point.