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Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by pavlov on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:21AM (#3923243)
Salaries are typically quoted per month, but there is a bonus of 2 months's salary paid per year, so yearly gross is 14 x monthly.

Interesting. During the recent Euro crisis, when journalists discovered that some workers and officials in Greece enjoy a similar "extended year" of extra salary months, there was wide uproar across Europe about how the corrupted Greeks are being overpaid in ridiculous ways.

In the EU it's nowadays easy to see the speck in your brother's eye, but not notice the log in your own...

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by tezza on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:56AM (#3923382)
The Press wrongly just focus on one issue at a time. Other problems become side-notes or explicitly ignored.

Any solution to the current focus problem is paraded as a global solution.

But when the long ignored problems finally burst, the Press simply say 'the problem resurfaced' as if it had gone away somehow.

Relating to Austria, their banks were all wiped out lending to Hungary (more than 80% of loans to Hungary were Austrian)

There will be no mention of these zombie Austrian banks until one goes under. (Like Dexia)

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from 2008:

http://www.economist.com/node/12564042?story_id=12564042

http://www.moneyweek.com/investments/stock-markets/the-plagu...

http://www.moneyweek.com/personal-finance/credit-default-swa...

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by Jabbles on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:37AM (#3923305)
I think the anger was from Greeks "paying themselves" more than they can afford, and getting into astonishing amounts of debt.

If you can afford to pay 14 months a year it's simply equivalent to an increase in your monthly salary with 12 months, which no one would have a problem with.

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by pmjordan on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:24AM (#3923254)
I don't know if it's still the case, but bankers used to receive 16 salaries in Austria. The 4 bonus months presumably taxed at the low rate.

That said, it's irrelevant if you get paid 14 salaries or 12 salaries that are 1/6th higher and correspondingly adjusted tax/social security rates. It's just a trick to make the "common man" feel better, just like the employer's share of tax & social security. Employees would be outraged if it all came off their (correspondingly higher) paycheck.

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by tdrgabi on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:26AM (#3923261)
I guess the workers and officials were getting "bonuses" payed by the state in a bankrupt country.

The developers are payed by companies, they don't get money from your pockets while also working against you.

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by smackay on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:25AM (#3923711)
It is a similar situation in Portugal with one extra month paid in the summer and one at Christmas. It seems an eminently practical idea so that lower paid people would have ready cash for holidays and Christmas. However given the furore over the apparently profligate peoples of the Mediterranean the government is currently in the process of phasing it out completely.