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Re:Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 milli... by Veserv on Friday February 02, 2024 @01:04PM (#39231968)
You are right. People seem to think a recall means “taking it in to get fixed”.

But, a recall actually means the product has a dangerous defect that requires the manufacturer to promptly fix it for free otherwise the vehicle must be removed from the road.

To better explain this we should use the term “dangerous defect” instead of “recall”.

“Teslas contain another dangerous defect - affecting 2.2 million vehicles” does sound more accurate.

Re:Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 milli... by bumby on Friday February 02, 2024 @03:59PM (#39234309)
The correct term may just be "non-compliant design"
Re:Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 milli... by gfosco on Friday February 02, 2024 @01:06PM (#39231996)
You think a font being a few tenths of a millimeter off spec is a "dangerous defect" ? Let me guess... not a fan of Elon.
Re:Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 milli... by Veserv on Friday February 02, 2024 @01:17PM (#39232149)
Tesla and NHTSA both agree it is a recall.

As to the definition they are agreeing on, from the NHTSA website [1]:

“Initiated safety recalls require a manufacturer's action to announce and remedy the defects.

A recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle, equipment, car seat, or tire creates an unreasonable safety risk or fails to meet minimum safety standards.”

Creating a unreasonable safety risk or failing to meet minimum safety standards is kind of the definition of dangerous. And there is a defect causing it. So, yes, Tesla claims it is a “dangerous defect” and I think Tesla knows more about their products being dangerous than you do.

[1] https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls

Re:Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 milli... by deely3 on Friday February 02, 2024 @01:12PM (#39232081)
Yes. Unreadable font/icon is dangerous during driving.
Re:Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 milli... by bryanlarsen on Friday February 02, 2024 @02:03PM (#39232762)
I'm not so sure it's a safety improvement, though. To make the text bigger, they got rid of the icon.

https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1753249463311691839

Re:Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 milli... by peterisza on Thursday February 08, 2024 @08:30AM (#39301677)
Many Ford, GM, Kia/Hyundai and Porsche cars on the road today have this exact same "dangerous" issue. Instead of recalling the cars, they filed an inconsequential non-compliance petition so that they don't have to fix it.

Only Tesla could fix it. GM, Porsche, Kia/Hyundai and Ford couldn't. Their cars remain "dAngErOUs".

Source: https://youtu.be/480yxR_kmIg?si=dThdJD2_QceCyF_E&t=161

Re:Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 milli... by peterisza on Thursday February 08, 2024 @08:21AM (#39301612)
Porsche Taycans still have this "danGeRouS dEfEct" today, and Porsche doesn't fix them. Where's the article?

Source: https://youtu.be/480yxR_kmIg?si=dThdJD2_QceCyF_E&t=161

Dangerous defect my ass...