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Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by adastra22 on Thursday February 01, 2024 @09:06PM (#39224059)
I’m a victim of a SWATting. You cannot imagine the hell you get put through until it happens to you. This kid deserves life.
Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by arp242 on Thursday February 01, 2024 @09:59PM (#39224448)
I'm sorry that happened to you, but two wrongs don't make a right and vengeance is not justice.
Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by adastra22 on Thursday February 01, 2024 @11:48PM (#39225168)
Vengeance? Where does vengeance enter into this?

This kid has demonstrated a fundamental incapacity to feel empathy and remorse for the lives he ruined and the people he purposefully and repeated placed in lethal situations.

Such a psychopath is a menace to society and needs to be locked up.

Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by arp242 on Friday February 02, 2024 @12:26AM (#39225385)
You can't make that assertion based on this article because it doesn't have enough information. People – especially children and teenagers – can commit crimes, even terrible crimes, and still have the capacity to feel empathy.

It's these kind of wild views that see all criminals as irredeemable Hannibal Lector type monsters that barely qualify as human that led to the militarisation of the police in the first place. Well, one of the reasons anyway.

Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by adastra22 on Friday February 02, 2024 @07:53AM (#39228008)
Hundreds of SWATtings. You can infer a lot from that alone.
Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by ecf on Friday February 02, 2024 @06:52AM (#39227621)
Society being unable to self-regulate and deal with problem people like this is a purely modern issue. I hope we find a solution because, otherwise, I don’t see how things stay together.
Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by zht on Thursday February 01, 2024 @10:11PM (#39224526)
What?

People commit crimes that have negative impact on people, possibly causing death

They go to prison for committing these crimes

It’s not like the guy accidentally ran over a dog

He swatted people for money

Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by arp242 on Thursday February 01, 2024 @10:26PM (#39224631)
I never said he shouldn't go to prison. I also never said this wasn't serious.
Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by AlexanderTheGr8 on Friday February 02, 2024 @01:02PM (#39231932)
Can you elaborate on the hell you get put through when SWATting happens?

My understanding was that SWATting means someone calls the police and says that you have a bomb in your house or something to that effect. I imagine that the SWAT team breaks down your door and arrest you and everyone else in the household.

Soon enough, they must realize that you are all good, right? SWATting is common enough that they must be aware of it and take it into account. If they started arresting and prosecuting people who were victims of SWATting, there would be big court cases against the police.

To clarify, I am not trying to underplay what you went through. I just want to understand what you went through that made you describe it as "hell".

Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by AvieDeckard on Friday February 02, 2024 @02:58PM (#39233408)
I feel a need to point out that a force of armed men pointing guns at you with their fingers on the trigger is very much a deeply traumatizing and frightening thing to go through. We also have occurrences of swatting incidents leading to the deaths of innocents (links below). I also want to add that during a swatting incident, having your dog shot on sight isn't irregular, as they are considered a threat while sweeping through your home.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Wichita_swatting

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tennessee-man-targeted-...

Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by adastra22 on Friday February 02, 2024 @11:27PM (#39237532)
> having your dog shot on sight isn't irregular

That's a bad way of phrasing it. Shooting the dog is POLICY. The very first thing they do.

Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by ziml77 on Friday February 02, 2024 @02:32PM (#39233083)
You can start by imagining how traumatic is it to have a huge team of armed men break into your home and violently restrain you or a loved one. If you've been SWATted you don't know why these people are there. Heck even if you recognize they're SWAT, you're not going to have any clue if they really are or of they're people posing as SWAT to kidnap you for ransom or worse.

Also that SWAT team isn't just going to come in, realize you're not armed, and laugh at the situation before letting you go. For all they know, you are as dangerous as the person who called in said and were just putting on an act when you saw the SWAT team roll up. So now you're at least going to deal with questioning which is going to be extremely difficult to deal with in a state of panic and confusion.

And no, it's very unlikely that the SWAT team would be held responsible for anything. Police have too much protection against that. To spin it for them, they were operating in good faith on the assumption that they needed to raid the house in the manner they did otherwise people would die.

Re:17 year old 'serial swatter' charged after police say he ... by adastra22 on Friday February 02, 2024 @11:29PM (#39237539)
And in this particular case, all while your elderly mom is ziptied on the ground in the front yard wearing just her underwear in freezing, raining weather at 1:30 at night, will all her (now very much awake) neighbors looking on.