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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by datadrivenangel on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:09PM (#39192658)
Anecdotally, I know a few other Amazon people who have decided to effectively quiet quit / just do their jobs and risk the pip because of senior management's lack of care.
Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by StableAlkyne on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:42PM (#39193140)
> just do their jobs and risk the pip

Absolutely bonkers that doing the job you were hired to do can get you canned

Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by zdragnar on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:49PM (#39193220)
When I interviewed roughly 10 years ago, I asked every person I met on the team roughly how many hours a week they worked. Every single person deflected and answered a question I hadn't actually asked.

For that team at least, the job you were hired to do was to get results. I imagine OP was referring to people simply putting time on the clock and being just present enough to avoid notice, without actually caring whether they were getting the same results a full level of effort would achieve.

Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by datadrivenangel on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @03:04PM (#39194958)
The issue is that the expected results are often unrealistic, demanding significant amounts of effort & time to meet.
Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by y-c-o-m-b on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:49PM (#39193221)
wave. I've been doing this for the last two years, but really dialed it in to the extreme over the last year. I don't give a shit if I get PIP'd at this point. If a company is willing to screw me over at every turn with no remorse and not an ounce of compassion, then this is how I'll fight back. Fuck em!
Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by infamouscow on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @01:07PM (#39193468)
This applies to every company, without exception.

Even at the best run companies, if the financial situation changes, you'll be gone through no fault of your own.

People that get emotionally and psychologically invested in someone else's company do themselves a disservice, typically only learned the hard way.

Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by y-c-o-m-b on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @01:18PM (#39193602)
I don't think I agree. There are small shops (<500 employees) that really do treat people well. I've worked at smaller places that have given decent salaries, no-cap PTO (and actually let you use it without fuss), no overtime, yearly bonuses, shutting down for two weeks during the holidays, and actually listen to employee requests/concerns.

When you work at a FAANG, you know you'll be sacrificing some of those benefits and taking on more stress for much higher pay. The current climate is much worse than that though. It's a complete no-empathy/give-no-fucks environment, and that's not ok. Garbage in, garbage out.

I'm not looking for a hand-out, I just want to be treated as a human being. In return, you'll have a productive employee.

Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by diob on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:27PM (#39192937)
Honestly pretty smart. Sit around, collect paycheck, maybe work on resume / side hustles.

And of course, marvel when you still get high performance marks.