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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by otabdeveloper4 on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:07PM (#39192613)
The mangement had several years to collect data. Maybe they checked the numbers and found that, yes, people on average are less productive when working from home.

Is that surprising or unexpected somehow?

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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by zonkerdonker on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:25PM (#39192904)
So why hasn't anyone published that data, or even shared that internally? You know damn well amazon and meta and others have loads of quantifiable data.
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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by j4yav on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:20PM (#39192839)
If they checked the numbers and it showed that they’d be shouting from the rooftops, not trying to prevent anyone from discussing it.
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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by DiggyJohnson on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @01:57PM (#39194113)
Why would they? On what other issue do we expect transparency in the internal metrics of large corporations?
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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by j4yav on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @02:07PM (#39194228)
Typically you’d get that sort of thing at a quarterly report if it was actually material to the performance of the company and they had actual data. Otherwise it’s just a normal thing as far as I know to support an argument with data if you have it.
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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by p_l on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:24PM (#39192898)
Chances that they have actually gathered data are infinitesimally low.

Now, CEOs following fashion trends, OTOH...

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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by joquarky on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @05:08PM (#39196554)
> following fashion trends

The older I get, the more often I see cargo cults.

Have they always been there and I just didn't notice?

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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by p_l on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @05:48PM (#39197020)
Always has been.

Sometimes we just start to lose blinkers, sometimes they get sticker, and even both but in different areas :/

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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by ac26 on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @05:44PM (#39196981)
Did they gather evidence from Elon's tweets or what are we talking about?

If there were actual concrete data on RTO being empirically better, the Corporate Real Estate world wouldn't have anything to worry about in the next 5 years.

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Re:CEOs Are Using Return to Office Mandates to Mask Poor Man... by bitcharmer on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @10:41AM (#39205103)
MBA's don't follow scientific method. Engineers do.
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