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Re:Two Sonoma communes’ psychedelic rise and fall (2017) by ProllyInfamous on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @06:46AM (#39188971)
>“What had been manageable and a complete delight began to disintegrate,” Selvin continued. “It’s the mentality the utopian ideal attracts: instead of responsible members you’re looking at people wanting something for free. Utopias are undermined by human nature.”

Having twice-attempted communal living arrangements (once in SFbayarea): this quote is spot-on. Both my experiences, it was the awesome member's worthless partner [who sunk each dream].

My update to the above quote would be this: "Humanity is undermined by human nature."

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