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Re:In Loving Memory of Square Checkbox by snet0 on Sunday January 28, 2024 @08:38AM (#39165609)
I think, bizarrely, the control pattern for mute "flows" the opposite way to the control for pause/play. If there's a play icon, and you click it, you expect it to play the video. If there's a pause button, you expect it to pause the video. Going against this pattern, if I see a speaker icon, and I click it, I expect it to transition to a crossed-speaker, and mute the video, and vise versa. That is: the current button state in play/pause reflects the action of the button, while the current button state in volume reflects the state of the button.

I think these conventions are easily solved for video, anyway, because it's obvious when the video is muted or not (hopefully).

Re:In Loving Memory of Square Checkbox by onionisafruit on Sunday January 28, 2024 @09:32AM (#39166127)
> it's obvious when the video is muted or not (hopefully).

It isn’t always obvious to me. Sometimes I can’t tell if a video player is muted vs the system volume being low. There’s also the situation where a video is silent and I don’t know if I’m supposed to be hearing anything.

Re:In Loving Memory of Square Checkbox by skydhash on Sunday January 28, 2024 @10:04AM (#39166407)
I think these conventions come from actual players like VHS and walkmans. The play, pause, stop,… where actual buttons and mute was an icon on the status display. Buttons are actions while icons are state. The rare case where there was a mute button, it was toggleable (or have a led on it) and these always reflect the state.
Re:In Loving Memory of Square Checkbox by dylan604 on Sunday January 28, 2024 @11:13AM (#39167036)
my memory of a Walkman had a wheel for volume but a mute button was not something I'm familiar on this device. see this image for reference:

https://vintomatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Vintomatic...

Re:In Loving Memory of Square Checkbox by fireflash38 on Sunday January 28, 2024 @11:43AM (#39167375)
They frequently had a "click" at the end of the volume wheel that would fully mute.
Re:In Loving Memory of Square Checkbox by dylan604 on Monday January 29, 2024 @01:15AM (#39173260)
In my experience, that click also acted as power off.