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Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by shmatt on Friday January 26, 2024 @02:28PM (#39146967)
The help Trump get elected is truly mine boggling to me. I mean if you _support_ him, vote for him, its your constitutional right

But electing the man who tried to implement a muslim ban, because you feel hes on the wrong side of a _very_ complex problem, is really something else. Remember Trump had a very different Supreme Court when he tried to implement the muslim ban, he would probably have a much easier time with the current one

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by r00fus on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:58PM (#39148234)
Biden apparently wants to lose. Watch every single campaign event be protested (many protesters are Jews). Yeah, that's definitely going to lower turnout on the DEM side.

Biden is not only going to lose, Trump might even get a trifecta.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by sebzim4500 on Friday January 26, 2024 @04:20PM (#39148570)
I'm not sure the protestors will be a net negative, lots of people protested trump in 2016 and them getting thrown out only encouraged his base. If you watch the videos of the Biden interruptions the crowd stays firmly on Biden's side.

Biden's issues at the moment are that economic sentiment is a lagging indicator of some variables that have only recently recovered to their normal values (inflation etc.). If these issues fix themselves we will have a better sense of whether Israel-Hamas War has meaningfully impacted him.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by explaininjs on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:28PM (#39147801)
I don’t love Trump, but there’s no denying there was far less war, and especially US-funded war, when he was in office. Ukraine-Russia massively escalated as soon as someone in the pocket of the military industrial complex got put in power, as Putin knew it would, and Israel followed suit soon after.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by albntomat0 on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:50PM (#39148109)
I find it hard to believe there’s correlation between the beginnings of Russia-Ukraine and Israel-Hamas and who the US president is.

If anything, Russia and Hamas are each less likely to spark each conflict (in the specific sense of invading Ukraine and 7 October, not the preconditions) knowing that the US is more likely to provide arms to Ukraine and Israel.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by tumsfestival on Friday January 26, 2024 @04:32PM (#39148756)
Considering Hamas' plan all along was to martyrize the Gaza population by feeding it to the lions, subsequently sabotaging Israel's relations with its neighbors and the global community, it does make sense they decided to provoke a war during Biden's term, a very outspoken zionist.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by explaininjs on Friday January 26, 2024 @06:41PM (#39150454)
But Israel is far more likely to want conflict to occur. Evidence of such desire would take the form of ignoring intel from international community stating that an attack was planned, and allowing human-sized slow moving targets to pass through the air defense systems unassailed.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by aaomidi on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:44PM (#39148032)
I'm not sure what I will do, but I'm not voting for Trump either way.

There is a lot written about civil disobedience through not partaking in electoral politics, and that's _likely_ the direction I'm going to go if Biden does not change his tone (and hopefully actually do a proper apology for his actions so far).

This sucks, and I'll participate in local and even congressional elections, but for president I can not really find myself voting for Biden. I do not expect myself to agree 100% with any candidate, but there are certain red-lines that a candidate can not cross. I have a few of those, being anti-abortion is not something I can tolerate in any candidate. Being pro-mass-killing-looking-like-genocide is also one. I suspect this feeling is not unique to me.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by MeImCounting on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:22PM (#39149517)
Personally regardless of any other stance I will always vote along the abortion lines. I would hope others would be able to prioritize that as well. I dont want to see the US turn into a theocratic dictatorship.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by aaomidi on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:48PM (#39149870)
That's why I'm still going to be voting in congressional elections.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by CapricornNoble on Friday January 26, 2024 @08:37PM (#39151438)
Abortion is probably one of the leading causes of the demographic destruction (and by extension, destruction of political influence) of the black American community.

https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/02/25/abortion-the-over...

Not only religious fanatics oppose it in its current form in America.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by MeImCounting on Friday January 26, 2024 @10:11PM (#39152078)
Far and away the greatest opposition to abortion is religious in nature. Certainly other groups might oppose it for varying reasons but they are an extreme minority.

I would even venture to say that those other groups oppose it in part because of cultural effects of religious ethics infecting the rest of society.

Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by aaomidi on Friday January 26, 2024 @10:23PM (#39152172)
I am for choice of people to decide if they have kids. These arguments have no effect on me.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by ApolloFortyNine on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:47PM (#39148054)
Calling it a Muslim ban is pretty disingenuous, and always was. The ban left out some very large Muslim countries, such as Indonesia and Pakistan for example.
Re:ICJ Orders Israel to Prevent Genocide Without Cease-Fire by frob on Friday January 26, 2024 @04:31PM (#39148750)
He campaigned on banning Muslims. He then tried three different times to ban a large amount of Muslims. He regularly denigrates Muslims and blames them for our problems. According to his own people, he wanted to ban Muslims and wanted a fig-leaf to do it legally [1].

This kinda comes down to a case of who are you going to believe, a notorious fraudster and conman or your own lying eyes?

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/tr...