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Re:NSA Buys Americans' Internet Data Without Warrants, Uncla... by izacus on Friday January 26, 2024 @04:22AM (#39140472)
Well, they're sometimes outright overt. Here's Spanish defense ministry trying to extort 100.000$ from an 18 year old kid because he made a tasteless joke in a message to his friend> https://www.businessinsider.com/passenger-faces-120k-fines-a...
Re:NSA Buys Americans' Internet Data Without Warrants, Uncla... by itishappy on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:28PM (#39149628)
> The BBC reported that before departing, he told a friend on Snapchat: "On my way to blow up the plane (I'm a member of the Taliban)."

> Security services saw the message and flagged it to Spanish authorities, who sent two F-18 jets to follow the airliner until it landed, per the BBC.

> He faces a public-disorder charge, which could result in him being ordered to pay over $120,000 if he's found guilty.

> About $103,000 of that is from the Spanish Defense Ministry for the cost of scrambling the fighter jets.

Definitely alarming than encrypted Snapchats are clearly not private, but the response as a whole still seems fairly reasonable, no? He did kinda threaten to blow up a commercial airliner.

I think the BBC article about his acquittal has a lot more points relevant to the discussion about privacy:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68099669

Re:NSA Buys Americans' Internet Data Without Warrants, Uncla... by izacus on Saturday January 27, 2024 @03:58AM (#39153880)
No, charging 100k to a teenager over a shitty joke over private encrypted communication channel is absolutely not reasonable. Spanish military can eat the cost of their false positive response. Why would you think an innocent individual paying for trigger happiness of authorities would ever be reasonable?
Re:NSA Buys Americans' Internet Data Without Warrants, Uncla... by itishappy on Monday January 29, 2024 @10:05AM (#39177037)
> No, charging 100k to a teenager over a shitty joke over private encrypted communication channel is absolutely not reasonable.

Where are you putting the stress in this sentence?

If your issue is with the encrypted private channel being spied upon, then I completely agree, and so did the court system.

But outside of that, if he had said this via SMS, this would be the standard response. It may be a shitty joke, but jokes don't make you magically immune to consequences. You can't yell "fire" in a clouded theater, and you can't say "on my way to blow up the plane (I'm a member of the Taliban)" while boarding a commercial airliner. Well, you can, you just should expect to be sued.