Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store in the European Union

Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by andersa on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:12PM (#39136104)

Mass market adoption for general purposes, relevance in people's lives. Many EU citizens manage their entirely digital life from their phone, I do not know of anyone who uses an XBox 360 to do that.

Not that I would be opposed to game consoles also falling under this legislation.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by bee_rider on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:32PM (#39136339)

It would be a shame if the way to get a closed ecosystem was to remove functionality to meet some arbitrary threshold.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by smoldesu on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:04PM (#39149234)

Shame for whom?

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by doodpants on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:10PM (#39136090)

Every computer is general purpose at its core. But some computers ship with software/firmware that restricts the purposes accessible by the end user.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by FirmwareBurner on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:15PM (#39136133)

> But some computers ship with software/firmware that restricts the purposes accessible by the end user.

Which is a necessary evil if you're shipping the hardware of that "computer" at ultra low or negative margins in order to make back the investment on SW sales.

Otherwise, the air force will buy boatloads of PS3s for a computer farm and scalpers will use PS5 for crypto mining and Sony would go bust from these hardware sales.

Apple is in a different position as it makes crazy margins even on hardware which is arare for hardware manufacturers.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by andersa on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:16PM (#39136151)

Good thing we know that Apple already makes significant profit on every sale of their hardware.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by FirmwareBurner on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:21PM (#39136204)

Yeah, it's almost as if some more healthy competition in the market would help instead of Apple being a monpopoly on mobile along with Google.

Hence why we need regulations to break Apple and Google of their high horse.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by doodpants on Friday January 26, 2024 @08:57AM (#39142605)

Selling hardware at negative margins is not a "necessary" evil; it's just a business model that some manufacturers choose to impose on consumers, and then we end up with things like DRM-encumbered printer ink cartridges.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by xcrunner529 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:38PM (#39136412)

Personal computing/general tasks being done on the device vs one purpose. Like there's not just the ability to talk on the phone and message. People use it as their sole computer, apply for jobs, pay for things, research things, etc.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by makeitdouble on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:33PM (#39136354)

A computer that touts to have an app for most things in life ?

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by downWidOutaFite on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:12PM (#39136106)

I would love if it applied to game consoles as well.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by 38 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:11PM (#39136094)

Would you buy an XBOX for business use? IT? devops?

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by paulddraper on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:14PM (#39136125)

No, but I also wouldn't buy a iPhone for a devops machine.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by 38 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @06:33PM (#39136951)

you obviously haven't seen Mr. Robot.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by wpm on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:13PM (#39136112)

Would you buy an iPhone to run shell scripts and game emulators on?

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by armchair_expert on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:22PM (#39136214)

An iPhone is just a tiny pocket computer. There is no technical reason preventing an iPhone from running shell scripts and emulators. The only reason why it can't do is because Apple controls what apps you are allowed to run on your phone.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by funkyfourier on Thursday January 25, 2024 @05:17PM (#39136161)

Actually, yes. If the iPhone was an open platform that could open it up for many use cases involving shell scripting and such. As for game emulators I already run several on my Android phone with great luck, so that is indeed a valid use case.

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