Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store in the European Union

Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by asow92 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @02:41PM (#39134141)

This is from a US small non-profit, and small for-profit operating with way less than $1M in funding, and not necessarily intending to deal with people in the EU context: Not every company has money to pay for the hours to ensure they are GDPR compliant, so they opt out of serving EU clients altogether. It's not always a problem forever, but it's definitely a blocker sometimes.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by kaba0 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @04:09PM (#39135332)

How is it any different than an EU company complying with Russian/US/whatever laws? International laws have always been crazy expensive, if anything, being able to (mostly) target quite a big market by only making it EU-aware is more of a plus, than a negative.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by Apocryphon on Thursday January 25, 2024 @04:20PM (#39135467)

Not to mention that California essentially has had GDPR rules for the past five years now. Are these non-profits also not operating there?

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by asow92 on Friday January 26, 2024 @02:33PM (#39147030)

Contrary to popular belief, there are other states in our nation with people whose business has nothing to do with California or it's residents.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by Apocryphon on Friday January 26, 2024 @02:47PM (#39147225)

And one would assume, those businesses don't care nor need to operate in the EU, either.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by asow92 on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:09PM (#39149307)

That would also assume they don’t ever have domestic users traveling abroad and don’t know how to use a VPN

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by Apocryphon on Friday January 26, 2024 @05:45PM (#39149836)

And if those domestic users are from California?

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by asow92 on Friday January 26, 2024 @06:29PM (#39150335)

NYS

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by donkeybeer on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:06PM (#39134480)

What does your app or website do that its having trouble complying with GDPR?

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by asow92 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:16PM (#39134607)

That’s the thing: when I come onto a project they might not even know, nor have the hours to allocate to figure it out, and I ain’t working for free to figure it out.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by donkeybeer on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:23PM (#39134721)

What was your app trying to do? Be clear.

If for example its just an information website with static content and its putting cookies on the users device, its a you problem, not a EU problem.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by asow92 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:43PM (#39134999)

Let me make this clearer: I'm not trying to do anything but work a job. These aren't my apps, and it's not a "me problem", but a them problem. I'm just the third party messenger relaying anecdotes.

Cookie disclosure/consent can be an issue, and again, sometimes companies would rather just not serve EU clients altogether than build a simple disclosure and not set any cookies. Not saying that's good or bad, but that's just what it is.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by donkeybeer on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:57PM (#39135184)

If you don't want to share what these apps are doing yet insist EU laws are troublesome, you won't be surprised for people to interpret them as doing something unneeded or anti user instead of just some "legal complexity barrier".

The apps could be perfectly fine, its just that people will speculate.

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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by asow92 on Friday January 26, 2024 @09:06AM (#39142690)

I don't care what they think one way or the other. I'm just relaying my experience. Do with it what you will.

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