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Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by mcpherrinm on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @06:59PM (#39124358)
Let me quote two of the entries from the "In Comments" section of https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

> Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work.

Expressing negative opinions is fine. But perhaps you should have a fear of being rude. We are a community, and there's plenty of other people reading these comments. I value kindness and being constructive, neither of which the comment I replied to appear to express.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by depressedpanda on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @10:02PM (#39125788)
If you value kindness, consider empathy. The person you're somewhat haughtily tone policing is obviously annoyed about wasting a totally unnecessary amount of time on something ultimately useless to them.

And the feedback was constructive (and easily actionable): be upfront about the very limited platform support, don't waste people's time.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by tptacek on Thursday January 25, 2024 @12:14AM (#39126411)
You're trying to high horse a complaint about someone referring to a new open source release as "worse than bad"? Because it doesn't support their preferred operating system? And it took them too many clicks on the website to learn that? No, that won't do.
Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by depressedpanda on Friday January 26, 2024 @04:18AM (#39140439)
But hiding essential information such as that it only runs on one OS, _is_ really bad UX, especially since it's so easy to fix.

Let's not conflate the open source release -- which is awesome! -- with the poor website design.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by tptacek on Friday January 26, 2024 @02:17PM (#39146802)
I don't think there's a way to talk yourself back up onto the horse here. Drive-by barbs like "worse than bad" are a plague on this site. It was a rude complaint about the website for an open source project, and it was called out civilly. Ironically, it's your personalizing response that skirts closest to incivility.

You can just disagree next time (if you really want to) without lecturing people on empathy? I think that strategy might work better.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by depressedpanda on Friday January 26, 2024 @03:17PM (#39147621)
You should consider the irony in you rudely lecturing me about lecturing someone else about lecturing a third person for being rude.

I hope you see the hypocrisy in your complaint about personalizing responses that skirt close to incivility. Not counting this comment, you're by far the worst offender in this thread.

I'm done here.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by thomastjeffery on Sunday January 28, 2024 @02:44PM (#39169104)
You seem really choosy about whom you apply your empathy.

If I had chosen more direct words, and written my criticism with less emotion, then you clearly wouldn't have any issue with it.

My comment has 81 points at the time of writing this one. Clearly the majority opinion here is that the substance of it was worthwhile.

God forbid humans express emotion on the internet. You are welcome to criticize my expression. To simply filter it out as bad internet speak is, at the very least, a bad strategy.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by tptacek on Sunday January 28, 2024 @04:03PM (#39169772)
You used a tropey put-down. You couldn't even find an original way to dunk on the project. I have a lot of empathy to allocate this scenario, but it's unclear why any of it should go to you.

I don't mean to keep a flagged, unproductive subthread going, but since you're listening to me: stop writing that way on HN. Stop dunking on people's open source projects. Be careful with how you write criticism. The preceding commenter was absolutely right to call out the snark in that comment. If you don't call that stuff out, it spreads like kudzu, and pretty soon we're all just writing Youtube comments. They did you a favor, and you should thank them for it.

Re:Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source by thomastjeffery on Monday January 29, 2024 @01:51AM (#39173497)
You're the one dunking here.