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Re:Tesla misses 4th qtr estimates on weak auto sales and war... by chollida1 on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @04:54PM (#39123077)
Numbers:

- Q4 Gross Margins 17.6%, EST. 18.1%, down 6.12% YoY

- Q4 automotive margins 17.2% ahead of 16.3% Q3, bullish

- Q4 Adjusted EPS $0.71, EST. $0.73c, down 40% YoY

- Q4 FCF $2.06B, EST. $1.45B, up 45% YoY

- Q4 Rev. $25.2B, EST. $25.9B, up 3% YoY

- Solar deployed 41 Megawatts, not very exciting, really lagging competitors here.

- revenue from credits sold to other companies was $433M down from $550 Q3

- this should eventually go to zero over the next 10 years

- 1.2M Model Y's sold,

Notes:

- EV sales in general rose by about 50% last year in the US

- TSLA now under 50% of EV market in the US, still absurdly good, but falling

- TSLA note growth in 2024 "may be notably lower" than 2023, but refused to offer guidance

- energy storage doubled 2022, that's pretty awesome

- when will they stop manufacturing the S and X, they are pretty minimal compared to the Y & 3 now

Look for:

- next gen(cheap cross over) "leaked" this morning, is that due to bad numbers?

  - expected to deliver 100,000/week of these after ramp up
  
  - will this be built outside of hte US to save money?
- dojo computer talk ($1B is alot to put into this space)

- will they break out cyber truck, or hide those numbers, note, they dodged it and said it would take a long time to ramp up

- V12 FSD notes. What data will they release and will the shift to NN to manage handling instead of hard coded rules work out?

- what are they making from super charging?

Thoughts:

- broke down below $200, options call writers win,

- Solar disappointing again, when will they spin that out and focus?

Re:Tesla misses 4th qtr estimates on weak auto sales and war... by bearjaws on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @04:41PM (#39122967)
No mention of how many cybertruck pre-order cancellations in the shareholder PDF...

I personally know two people who got tired of waiting and now own Rivians (and then cancelled).

Re:Tesla misses 4th qtr estimates on weak auto sales and war... by dsgnr on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @04:58PM (#39123119)
I canceled due to the disappointing range, especially for a truck that will be expected to tow things and go to difficult to reach places.
Re:Tesla misses 4th qtr estimates on weak auto sales and war... by slimebot80 on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @05:06PM (#39123209)
At this point it would really help if they stopped filtering everything through Elon. The Musk prism scatters light in crazy ways and he doesn't speak to a general audience.