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Re:Alaska CEO: We found many loose bolts on our Max planes by robofanatic on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @08:05AM (#39116798)
How can one guarantee once tightened bolts remain tight forever?
Re:Alaska CEO: We found many loose bolts on our Max planes by _ph_ on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @08:15AM (#39116883)
Forever is a long time. But with proper engineering you have a setup which can be either guaranteed for the designated life time (using loctite or safety pins) or inspection intervals which would ensure tightness. Assuming of course, the bolts were installed correctly in the first place.
Re:Alaska CEO: We found many loose bolts on our Max planes by trevvr on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @08:19AM (#39116934)
Castellated nuts and wire?
Re:Alaska CEO: We found many loose bolts on our Max planes by hnarn on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @08:44AM (#39117243)
Nothing can be “guaranteed” which is why proper procedure for inspection and maintenance exists. This whole controversy isn’t around random acts of god but the corruption of one of aviation’s most sacred and fundamental rules: that procedures are followed and improved, not stretched and bypassed for profit.
Re:Alaska CEO: We found many loose bolts on our Max planes by lazide on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @09:31AM (#39117723)
It’s unlikely in this situation that the bolts were ever tightened correctly the first time.

There are plenty of ways to ensure bolts stay tight that work, and these plug doors have been in service on other planes for a long time with no issues.

The entire rotor assembly (literally what holds it up) on some helicopters is held on by a single nut, for example. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_nut]

This doesn’t appear to be a case of the engineers not designing it safely - but it not being installed correctly and no one catching it before it rolled out the door.

Re:Alaska CEO: We found many loose bolts on our Max planes by tristor on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @09:50AM (#39117957)
> How can one guarantee once tightened bolts remain tight forever?

Safety wiring: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_wire

This is actually required for some bolts per aviation regulations. I safety wired nearly every suspension/chassis bolt on my race car when I built it.