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Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by blueprint on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @02:47PM (#39108698)
"life is the process from birth until death"

"life is the way to make anything happen to you"

without a body (via life), a consciousness cant do anything

Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by Tepix on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @10:41PM (#39113345)
If you're merely running in a computer you could still communicate with someone else and do things that way.
Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by blueprint on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @02:46AM (#39114711)
that's called interfacing with a "body"

thanks for the downvotes, philosophy noobs

Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by illuminant on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @08:27AM (#39117032)
It is amazing this (perhaps pithy) comment is so down voted, yet you do make one very appropriate observation. Without a body a consciousness cannot do anything.

The obvious answer the so-called-science occult refuse to entertain is that consciousness is the universe inflecting itself and life is a subjective scope of potential capacitating this consciousness.

Life is the vessel and consciousness the universe peering back upon itself.

That is good philosophy.

Maybe not "science", yet neither is refusing to believe until someone else explains it to you.

Truth is not confined to the horizon of our ignorance, and science is merely our ignorance rigorously explained away.

Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by qingcharles on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @12:48PM (#39120297)
What's a body? It doesn't have to be anything more than ones and zeros.
Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by illuminant on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @02:01PM (#39121298)
Ones and zeros aren't a body. A body is the composition of matter (silicon or carbon or whatever) which has capacity for potential. Potential is where the magic happens. Ones and zeros are states which may be represented by potential.
Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by blueprint on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:46AM (#39126905)
I would like to give you an example in that which is visible for your understanding.

in order for a tree to reproduce, it must sprout first, and have a life in which it produces a flower, which gets pollinated, generally speaking. The important point is that from that flower which is pollinated, eventually, a fruit is formed. When the fruit is formed and detaches, that detached fruit is the state of death. even if the tree dies, it can revive through what it stored within its fruit.

Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by blueprint on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:42AM (#39126885)
> It is amazing this (perhaps pithy) comment is so down voted

Socrates, Jesus, Lao-tzu, Bodhidharma, Buddha - all were outright killed or expelled and lived very lonely lives.

Re:Is the emergence of life an expected phase transition in ... by blueprint on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:43AM (#39126894)
life is the state that a consciousness is combined with a body.

at death the consciousness separates from the body.

consciousness is composed of energy so it doesn't just disappear at death.