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Re:Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Seri... by tw1984 on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @08:36AM (#39103106)
why would anyone use a "benchmark" tool from a vendor (zilliz here) to test the performance of its competitors?
Re:Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Seri... by Fendyfd on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @09:58PM (#39113080)
Good question. 1. VectorDBBench is an open-source benchmark that is pretty vendor-neutral. If you've used it or checked its leaderboard, you'll find that almost every database is ranked first or in the top place on specific metrics.

2. The key to using a benchmark is not to find which vector database is the "best" but which one is most suitable for your use cases and applications. Actually, there is no "universally best" vector database for any situation. So I don't think anyone should be able to cheat on this.

Re:Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Seri... by tw1984 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:24AM (#39127417)
> VectorDBBench is an open-source benchmark that is pretty vendor-neutral

No this is not vendor neutral unless you can prove that zillz included all tests that would expose its weakness.

> If you've used it or checked its leaderboard

see, you called it "leaderbord", it is a good proof that it is not vendor neutral. By using such highly biased tool, its hosting url has both the name of your company and the term "leader", it implies that the company is a leader when compared to other "vector" databases. tell me how such dirty trick is called vendor neutral?

please, HN is a place full of professional developers, many of those including myself have been in the business long enough to tell what is cheap propaganda and what is real cool tech.

> Actually, there is no "universally best" vector database for any situation.

because whether there should be a product category called "vector database" is in doubt in the first place. as explain, it is a low tech stuff significantly easier to design & implement than today's regular databases (e.g. cockroachdb). its role will eventually be filled by other real databases.

Re:Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Seri... by Fendyfd on Thursday January 25, 2024 @09:02AM (#39129631)
It is open-sourced, and you can find its source code on GitHub. The leaderboard is just something easy for readers to have a quick look at. You're welcome to use this tool to generate your results.

I won't argue with you about whether "vector database" should be a product category. You are not the first or even the last person who has doubts about it. Maybe many years later, we'll have the answer.

Re:Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Seri... by Fendyfd on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @10:01PM (#39113095)
Re:Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Seri... by tw1984 on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @07:29AM (#39116476)
could you please stop posting such advertisement? why would anyone read vector database benchmark results generated by a vector database vendor?
Re:Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Seri... by Fendyfd on Thursday January 25, 2024 @08:45AM (#39129490)
trying to answer your questions since you asked.
Re:Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Seri... by tw1984 on Saturday January 27, 2024 @10:24AM (#39156302)
no, you were trying to actively promote a particular vendor - for well known reasons. HN is not your free advertising platform, could you please just pack up you ads and leave people alone?