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Re:Passenger notices missing bolts on plane wing, flight can... by stavros on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @03:19AM (#39100771)
> Each of these panels has 119 fasteners, so there was no impact to the structural integrity

This feels a bit off. It's implying that 119 fasteners are more than enough, but, if that's the case, why have more fasteners than necessary? How many are "just enough", and how many are too few?

Re:Passenger notices missing bolts on plane wing, flight can... by lm28469 on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @03:27AM (#39100818)
Planes are possibly the most over engineered thing people use regularly, they rarely deal in term of "just enough"
Re:Passenger notices missing bolts on plane wing, flight can... by stavros on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @03:29AM (#39100832)
Everything deals in "just enough", otherwise it wouldn't work. Apparently, 119 is the upper limit of how many bolts are "just enough" to fly.
Re:Passenger notices missing bolts on plane wing, flight can... by lm28469 on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @04:52AM (#39101434)
Planes work just fine with 50% of their engine offline. Or with a missing exit door, or with 50% of pilots missing. An airbus will fly with 4 of its 5 control computers offline

If it was "just enough" to complete the mission anything going wrong would become a major issue

Re:Passenger notices missing bolts on plane wing, flight can... by Sakos on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @05:00AM (#39101482)
Sorry, on what basis are you making the claim that 119 is the lowest bound of what they could get away with just so it can fly? I've never seen that be the case in aircraft, where everything is designed to tolerances way beyond what you'd see in normal or even extreme circumstances.
Re:Passenger notices missing bolts on plane wing, flight can... by stavros on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @05:40AM (#39101722)
It's the highest bound, not the lowest bound, as that's how many it has.
Re:Passenger notices missing bolts on plane wing, flight can... by numpad0 on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @09:37AM (#39103840)
Typical safety factor for anything mechanical is >3x, partly for psychological sense of safety and partly to account for model inaccuracies(that isn't to say only every third screws is needed)