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Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by nighthawk454 on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:45PM (#39062393)
Seems weird to word it as “a very small percentage” instead of “a very small number” unless the number was a little bigger than they want to admit.
Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by blibble on Friday January 19, 2024 @06:14PM (#39062693)
yes, at least 1% of their users

which is a very large number

> To date, there is no evidence that the threat actor had any access to customer environments, *production systems*, source code, or AI systems.

senior executive's email accounts aren't production?

having every western company use the garbage that are Microsoft's hosted products (notably Teams and Outlook) is a national security issue that's a massive disaster that's just waiting to happen

Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by calgoo on Friday January 19, 2024 @06:21PM (#39062771)
I agree around teams and outlook, but what is the alternative? Google? AWS? Self host? Honest question, because the way enterprise tends to work, they want to offload the responsibility to a third party so When information does leak or get hacked, they can blame someone else.
Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by blibble on Friday January 19, 2024 @06:30PM (#39062861)
> but what is the alternative? Google? AWS? Self host?

I mean, given this was possible:

> used a password spray attack to compromise a legacy non-production test tenant account and gain a foothold, and then used the account’s permissions to access a very small percentage of Microsoft corporate email accounts

pretty much anything is going to be better than letting Microsoft host your email/corporate data

Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by redavni on Friday January 19, 2024 @07:24PM (#39063295)
You realize the Chinese government has compromised Gmail accounts through an dedicated interface for law enforcement right? I really don't see how you think Gmail is better. This is just bad passwords/lack of 2FA probably.
Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by roca on Friday January 19, 2024 @08:28PM (#39063710)
Got a reference for that?

To be clear: I've never heard of any such thing. I happen to work for Google, but I'm open the possibility that this happened and I didn't hear about it.

Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by ivlad on Friday January 19, 2024 @09:32PM (#39064071)
They probably confuse it with Russians hacking Yahoo and having access to user account admin interface: https://www.csoonline.com/article/560623/inside-the-russian-...
Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by redavni on Sunday January 21, 2024 @12:49PM (#39080709)
Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by ivlad on Friday January 19, 2024 @09:29PM (#39064062)
Google or self-host.

With self-hosting you get to use thing now considered legacy (e.g., IMAP servers), but I definitely have seen them working for organisations with thousands of employees. You’ll need staff to support it, too, but at some scale it will none be more expensive than cloud services. Yet, you’ll have more control over it.

OTOH, some things will definitely be less feature-rich, for example, on-prem Sharepoint (not that I recommend using it) may not live up to the expectations of users familiar with the online version.

Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by skybrian on Friday January 19, 2024 @07:12PM (#39063194)
The denominator is "Microsoft corporate email accounts." I interpret that as email accounts of the Microsoft organization (management, employees, and so on), but not customers.

It's pretty embarrassing and not very reassuring that they themselves got owned, but they wanted to tell their customers that they didn't.

Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by c0pium on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:17PM (#39064629)
This kind of attack can happen on any tech stack where bad passwords have ever been allowed. The dunking is obviously fun, but the fact that the underlying technology happened to be Microsoft’s is largely irrelevant.
Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by Aeolun on Saturday January 20, 2024 @01:54AM (#39065329)
Yeah, it’s just that less legacy conpanies have less chance of having a system that can be compromised in this way. Conversely, Microsoft is almost guaranteed to have it.
Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by yellowfool on Sunday January 21, 2024 @03:54PM (#39082945)
Ahh, a cult follower, let me guess, you are doing C# full time and it is the greatest programming language ever created ?
Re:Microsoft actions following attack by nation state actor ... by switch007 on Saturday January 20, 2024 @03:25AM (#39065682)
I’ve noticed in PR it’s very common (I’d say even standard practice) to use percentages to hide absolute numbers, and vice versa