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Re:YouTube and Spotify won't launch Apple Vision Pro apps, j... by guappa on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:53AM (#39054000)
> Apple's solution was to spend a fortune to develop their own Map data.

They most likely just downloaded openstreetmap database and spent nothing. Do you have any source that the logical and easy thing is not what they did?

Re:YouTube and Spotify won't launch Apple Vision Pro apps, j... by GeekyBear on Friday January 19, 2024 @08:29AM (#39055130)
Apple initially licensed data primarily from TomTom and also from others.

They've been replacing licensed map data with data they gather themselves for over half a decade now. So far, their own data covers North America, Europe, Australia as well as a few countries elsewhere. 35 countries so far.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/29/apple-is-rebuilding-maps-f...

https://www.justinobeirne.com/new-apple-maps-expansions-curr...

Re:YouTube and Spotify won't launch Apple Vision Pro apps, j... by lern_too_spel on Friday January 19, 2024 @10:26AM (#39056619)
No. GP is right. Apple Maps was originally created from a dump of Openstreetmap data. Apple then collected its own data to build its own maps from scratch and contributed none of that back. It used, and still uses, TomTom for traffic incident data. https://gspe21-ssl.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html
Re:YouTube and Spotify won't launch Apple Vision Pro apps, j... by GeekyBear on Friday January 19, 2024 @10:49AM (#39056842)
Nope. They may also use TomTom for traffic incident data, but their primary data source for map data at release was TomTom.

> The main provider of map data is TomTom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Maps

> contributed none of that back

OpenStreetMap seems to think that Apple contributes both tools and data.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Apple

Almost all of the large tech companies with a mapping product contribute data to OpenStreetMap, with Google being the sole exception that I'm aware of.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google

Re:YouTube and Spotify won't launch Apple Vision Pro apps, j... by lern_too_spel on Saturday January 20, 2024 @09:21PM (#39074869)
> OpenStreetMap seems to think that Apple contributes both tools and data.

Like I said, they contributed nothing from the maps they created from scratch back, only corrections to OpenStreetmap while they were using it.

Re:YouTube and Spotify won't launch Apple Vision Pro apps, j... by tonyedgecombe on Friday January 19, 2024 @08:03AM (#39054937)
I’ve seen an Apple mapping vehicle in my rural UK village so I assume they are spending real money on maps.
Re:YouTube and Spotify won't launch Apple Vision Pro apps, j... by Mindwipe on Friday January 19, 2024 @08:19AM (#39055052)
> They most likely just downloaded openstreetmap database and spent nothing. Do you have any source that the logical and easy thing is not what they did?

Yes, openstreetmap's data was WAYYYY better than Apple Maps at launch.

In central London Apple Maps had such bad data that some of the business listings hadn't existed since before Apple Inc was formed as company, which were certainly not problems in openstreetmap.