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Re:Norwegian youth win climate court case against the Norweg... by codetrotter on Thursday January 18, 2024 @03:53PM (#39047551)
No. Why?
Re:Norwegian youth win climate court case against the Norweg... by brutusborn on Thursday January 18, 2024 @03:56PM (#39047590)
Because science just updates our beliefs, it doesn’t produce ‘truths’ that we can follow. See the Problem of Induction or the Duhem–Quine thesis.
Re:Norwegian youth win climate court case against the Norweg... by hnbad on Thursday January 18, 2024 @05:00PM (#39048430)
What do you think truth is other than confident beliefs?

Nothing can produce "truths". If you want absolute truths, pick a holy text and decide for yourself what absolute truth you can pin on it.

Re:Norwegian youth win climate court case against the Norweg... by brutusborn on Thursday January 18, 2024 @06:01PM (#39049154)
You summarised my point nicely.

What we call ‘truth’ is just the beliefs we think are most accurate. ‘Just follow the science’ is silly because it essentially means following beliefs on faith without questioning whether they are the best theory. In many cases the better theory goes against the consensus.

E.g. mothers who ‘just followed the science’ and took Thalidomide caused their children untold suffering. They could have been skeptical but instead they had faith in science, which was unfortunately done badly.

Re:Norwegian youth win climate court case against the Norweg... by newsclues on Thursday January 18, 2024 @04:57PM (#39048389)
It’s a process not an end state.

“Follow science” and ‘follow “the” science’ are two different things, and we just need to go back in history to understand that humans did some horrible stuff because of “the” science.

Re:Norwegian youth win climate court case against the Norweg... by codetrotter on Thursday January 18, 2024 @05:26PM (#39048757)
Hm.. I don’t see that distinction in this case.

To me when they say they “follow the science” it does not imply an end state. To me it only implies “everything we know so far”.

I am sure that if scientific results showed the opposite of their current idea, they would once again update their view.

Re:Norwegian youth win climate court case against the Norweg... by brutusborn on Thursday January 18, 2024 @06:04PM (#39049187)
Your intuition of scientists updating views is wrong, see Kuhns scientific revolutions for more examples. Scientists generally stick to preconceived notions long after there is data to refute them.

E.g. heliocentrism, germ theory, cigarettes being unhealthy, lobotomies being optimal