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Re:WhisperSpeech – An open source text-to-speech system buil... by jpcl on Thursday January 18, 2024 @12:45PM (#39044858)
That's true but you make it sound like it's totally obvious where the line of fair use should be drawn for AI training.

Until courts or lawmakers make it clearer I personally believe non-generative models (Whisper, ResNet, DINOv2) should be legally trainable on publicly released data. Generative models (image or video generation, TTS, LLMs?) should be held to a much higher scrutiny since their outputs can potentially compete the creators who put a lot of creativity into their art. That not true for an ImageNet-trained classification model or Whisper ASR.

Re:WhisperSpeech – An open source text-to-speech system buil... by doctorpangloss on Thursday January 18, 2024 @02:11PM (#39046198)
I believe your use should be protected. This is not meant to be a takedown, better you hear it from me though, because you'll never hear it from Discord.

> "We are working only with properly licensed"

...versus:

> "fair use"

You're smart enough to know these are very different things - saying you believe you are protected by fair use, and claiming that the data is "properly licensed." In legal there is a colossal difference, you went from say you were authorized to use something to you believe you are unauthorized but still permitted due to fair use.

Re:WhisperSpeech – An open source text-to-speech system buil... by jpcl on Friday January 19, 2024 @05:13AM (#39053721)
Yeah, thanks. I'd love to try to clarify this (I'll put this into our documentation as well ASAP) for anyone that may be reading this in the future:

Our model is not a derivative of Whisper but we do use the transcripts (and encoder outputs) in our data preprocessing. I am convinced this data cannot be regarded as a derivative of the (proprietary) Whisper training set. Whisper itself is open-source (MIT) and has no special TOS (unlike, say, ChatGPT).

WhisperSpeech itself is trained on mostly Public Domain and some CC-BY-SA recordings. We are working on adding more data and we will provide clearer documentation on all the licenses.