I wouldn’t call 2.5% of the day (including night) nothing. 20 minutes is way past the upper bound of a daily commute I would consider reasonable!

If you take a 1 hour commute (30 min each way)

It’s waking time, not sleeping time, which is out of a 16 hour waking day.

5 hours a week makes about 20 hours a month roughly, which is about half an extra work week to live that you miss out on.

Multiply that 30 minute commute each way by 12 months and it’s close to 260 hours a year.

160 hours a month of work so you get back about 1.6 working months to put into something else.

I had a few minute commute for 10 years. It was an unfair advantage.

I wouldn’t call it nothing either. I’d call it “actually getting a decent amount of exercise,” something many struggle with.

That sounds like a self-discipline problem.

What’s wrong with incorporating exercise into one’s lifestyle, without dedicated exercise time? It’s convenient and sustainable. Sure, it’s not as good as dedicated exercise time in terms of the adaptations one would get, but it’s much better than the adaptations they’d get on their couch.

Nothing is wrong with that - it's the issue of attempting to impose it on others which is objectionable.

point me to where they tried to "impose" this on others...

And the walk to work is a self-discipline solution!

You wierdos want everyone to have to micromanage our own mental health like we're islands. Humans are social creatures with social rituals for a reason. We go mad without them. People shouldn't have to force themselves to do everything without any social support. (and i go to the gym 4 times a week with my own discipline so no im not incapable i just don't want to have to do that about everything ever)

People think youre a pussy thats why you got downvoted. but I agree with your spirit though. We should minimize commute time.

I too prefer a voluntary 20 minute walk over a mandatory one. Then my brain can be aimed at what I value, not work.

I cant find a company that doesnt implode in less than a year.

Edit: Subcontractor at bp. Opec crunch. entire floor fired. Hardware startup, unexpected giant bill overnight. Layoffs. Fullstack webshop, sales didnt land. Crypto finance gig, asset prices crashed, clients all went broke instantly.

Sometimes thats just how it is.