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Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by gremlinunderway on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @07:09PM (#39021119)
This is the kind of realpolitik that lead the USA to push for NATO expansion in the 90s despite the clear indication that this would only antagonize and generate paranoia in Russia. The lesson from the Ukraine war for the United States is blowback, not lesson learned.
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Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by pyuser583 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @07:18PM (#39021223)
The alternative to NATO expansion was transferring European defense to the EU.

Or having a bunch of EU nations extremely vulnerable to Russian influence.

I’m very glad it’s NATO, and not the “EU Supreme Command” defending the Continent. Russia and Ukraine probably are too.

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Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by blibble on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @08:37PM (#39021971)
Russia would have loved "EU Supreme Command" instead of NATO

the Germans would have happily given Ukraine up (and likely Poland too) if they got a few cents off their gas bill

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Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by idopmstuff on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @07:16PM (#39021206)
Avoiding doing anything that might antagonize the bad guys isn't a particularly effective strategy for maintaining a stable and peaceful world. The lesson of Poland in WW2 is that when evil dictators get what they want, they don't calmly stop doing bad things.
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Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by Footkerchief on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @07:39PM (#39021456)
Among the countries interested in joining NATO during the 90s was Russia itself, even as it began waging brutal wars against its neighbors, who thereby have earned far more right to be paranoid than Russia has.
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Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by woah on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @07:26PM (#39021315)
If NATO hadn't expanded then Russia would currently be invading Poland and Austria. Why would this be a good thing?
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Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by blibble on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @08:35PM (#39021945)
given their immediate prior history, maybe those countries wanted to join so they'd never have to endure the horrors of being under Russian domination yet again?

not even the Russian population wants to be under Russian control

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