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Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by KuriousCat on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:12PM (#39018454)
Going by this logic, why is OpenAI forbidding use of the content it generates for training other models?
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by kelnos on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @04:47PM (#39019607)
Because any company, hypocrisy be damned, will use every legal lever at their disposal to protect their business model.
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by KuriousCat on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @05:31PM (#39020065)
Hope we are not normalizing hypocrisy, usually it is very destructive.
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by throwup238 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:40PM (#39018825)
They can write whatever they want in their Terms of Service. That's the logic.

That doesn't mean that courts will meaningfully enforce it for them.

Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by KuriousCat on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:45PM (#39018885)
I understand that, only pointing out the hypocrisy
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by johnnyanmac on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:39PM (#39018818)
Well, mostly because of corporate greed of ownership. But the underlying issue is that Ai training in AI is a recipe for ruining the entire training set. At least in these early stages.
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by KuriousCat on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:49PM (#39018931)
Not just greed, they want to silence copyright holders whose works they freely use and at the same time prevent others from using theirs. It is like having different set of rules for them. I don't believe training itself is ruining anything, it is the proposed model of value capture and marginalizing content creators that poses greater threat.
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by spookie on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @05:47PM (#39020215)
Yes, you've condensed the problem in display quite well here. It's not even just hypocrisy, but also short sighted behaviour.

Artists will learn to not trust the web, if they haven't already. The greatest time to train a model was yesterday, eventually no novel ideas, expressions, art will prosper on the "open" web. Just a regurgitation of some statistical idea of words, and pixels.