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Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by derangedHorse on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @02:19PM (#39017670)
"abusing those rights" is a subjective phrase. What about it is "abuse"? If I learned how to draw cartoon characters from copying Family Guy and released a cartoon where the characters are drawn in a similar style, would that be abuse (assuming my show takes some of Family Guy's viewership)? Is your ethical hangup with the fact it's wrong to use the data of others to influence one's work (which could potentially be an algorithm) or that people are losing opportunities based on the influenced work?

If it's the latter how do we find the line between what's acceptable and what's not? For example, most people wouldn't be against the creation and release of a cure for cancer developed in this way. It would lead to the loss of opportunities for cancer researchers but I believe most people would deem that an acceptable tradeoff. A grayer area would be an AI art generator used to generate the designs for a cancer research donation page. If it could potentially lead to a 10% increase in donations, does that make it worth it?

Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by scythe on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @02:26PM (#39017773)
>For example, most people wouldn't be against the creation and release of a cure for cancer developed in this way.

Intellectual property law does presently restrict the development of cancer treatments and demands in many cases exorbitant royalties from patients and practitioners, so I'm not convinced that this is accurate. If people believed that the loss of opportunities would constrain innovation in the field of cancer research, I think they'd expect the AI users to pay royalties as well.

Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by s1artibartfast on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:43PM (#39018851)
>If people believed that the loss of opportunities would constrain innovation in the field of cancer research, I think they'd expect the AI users to pay royalties as well.

This comes down to the product of AI.

If the AI produces a cancer treatment identical to what is already covered by patent, I think commercialization would be contingent on the permission of the IP holder.

If the AI produced a novel cancer treatment, using a transformative synthesis of available knowledge, Most people would not expect royalties.

Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by derangedHorse on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:12PM (#39018446)
I never made a legal appeal in my previous comment so legalities are irrelevant. It also differs from my argument on derivative/transformative works rather than specific works.

What I was questioning was whether people would think it's morally right or not to generate inspired works. For example, if someone made an algorithm to read the relevant papers and make a cancer treatment that addresses the same areas/conditions of a method under IP law but don't equate to the exact method, I don't see that as a morally wrong action by itself.