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Re:20.5 Years of XP and Agile by bluetomcat on Monday January 15, 2024 @09:33AM (#39001379)
It’s selling snake oil from the beginning. Prototypical snake oil salesmen like Martin Fowler, Kent Beck and Uncle Bob have made careers out of it, and have fostered a generation of people doing it at the company level.
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Re:20.5 Years of XP and Agile by disgruntledphd2 on Monday January 15, 2024 @10:44AM (#39002182)
> Martin Fowler, Kent Beck and Uncle Bob

Dunno about the last, but I have gotten a bunch of value out of Beck's TDD book and Fowler's refactoring book.

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Re:20.5 Years of XP and Agile by troupo on Monday January 15, 2024 @01:44PM (#39004436)
> a bunch of value out of Beck's TDD book

Meanwhile Kent Beck [1]: "I get paid for code that works, not for tests, so my philosophy is to test as little as possible to reach a given level of confidence"

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/a/153565

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Re:20.5 Years of XP and Agile by disgruntledphd2 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @01:52AM (#39010219)
Yeah totally. I find tests a useful design tool in what I do, but I definitely only test everything when I'm working on a complicated piece of legacy code that I don't understand.
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