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Re:Why the M2 is more advanced that it seemed by DeathArrow on Monday January 15, 2024 @04:13AM (#38998785)
Which laptop with AMD CPU I can use to watch movies for 20 hours or browse the Internet for the same amount of time without recharging?

I am not an Apple or MacOs fan but I recently bought a MacBook Pro just for battery life. So I can watch movies and browse the Internet on the sofa without having to plug the laptop.

Re:Why the M2 is more advanced that it seemed by incrudible on Monday January 15, 2024 @04:58AM (#38999041)
If you benchmark the AMD 7xxx series aganst the Apple chips while considering their power budget, AMD is on par or on top.

Battery life is strongly tied to software though, and here Apple has the upper hand. However, if you use Chrome vs Safari, you will notice degraded battery life on Mac OS too.

Re:Why the M2 is more advanced that it seemed by DeathArrow on Monday January 15, 2024 @05:10AM (#38999137)
I use Edge and I can browse the Internet for about 20 hours.
Re:Why the M2 is more advanced that it seemed by TheCapeGreek on Monday January 15, 2024 @08:48AM (#39000931)
> However, if you use Chrome vs Safari, you will notice degraded battery life on Mac OS too.

Still way better than non-M chips.

I've done the runaround and used Safari, Orion, Chrome, Arc, and back to Firefox on my M1 MBP. Some are better than others, but the machine overall is still superior.

Re:Why the M2 is more advanced that it seemed by jeroenhd on Monday January 15, 2024 @05:11AM (#38999141)
The ASUS ZenBook 14 has been tested to have about 18 hours of battery life for basic web browsing [1]. In the same test the 2020 MacBook Air 13" only scored about 14 hours. The Zenbook also easily beat the M1 in multicore performance, though single core is still where Apple shines.

Unfortunately, this test didn't include a more recent Macbook, so I can't tell how it stacks up against the M3. Still, for about €500 less than the M2 Air, I know what I would pick. The 1600p screen and the soldered-on memory is a bit of a downside, but the thing sells for less than half the price of a new M2 Macbook Air when you actually configure it with 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage; whatever improvements the M2 chip made don't seem all that interesting for that price difference.

Based on their historical data [2] for another guide, the Zenbook also seems to beat the M2 in terms of multi core performance and browsing battery life when recorded in another test, but I can't tell if those numbers are representative.

[1]: https://tweakers.net/reviews/11472/4/laptop-best-buy-guide-o...

[2]: https://tweakers.net/reviews/11610/4/laptop-best-buy-guide-d...

Re:Why the M2 is more advanced that it seemed by DeathArrow on Monday January 15, 2024 @05:23AM (#38999227)
Before buying a MacBook Pro 13", I've seen lots of reviews on notebookcheck. I bought my MacBook used and it really gives me 20 hours of battery life like in their test.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-13-2020-Lapt...

If that Zenbook lasts for 18 hours, it is a good contender. I don't care for having the fastest CPU, just a decent one and plenty of battery life.

Re:Why the M2 is more advanced that it seemed by jeroenhd on Monday January 15, 2024 @05:37AM (#38999307)
Every website tests different settings. There's a certain standard for brightness, the websites browsed, the software used, and so on. You can't compare battery tests unless all the test parameters are the same.

For instance, Tweakers uses a screen brightness of 180 cd/m² while testing, whereas NotebookCheck uses 150 cd/m². That alone should account for a sizeable difference in test results. I find it hard to tell what 30 cd/m² means in practice.

Re:Why the M2 is more advanced that it seemed by CharlesW on Monday January 15, 2024 @11:18AM (#39002516)
> The ASUS ZenBook 14 has been tested to have about 18 hours of battery life for basic web browsing. In the same test the 2020 MacBook Air 13" only scored about 14 hours.

Because the ZenBook has a 75 Wh battery, in comparison to the MBA's 52.6 Wh battery. That's one of the reasons it's heavier, too.