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Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by rst on Saturday January 13, 2024 @08:34AM (#38979740)
Likewise the 757, which current Boeing management scrapped when market trends were against it, but is now the plane they want -- so instead they're trying to cheap out with 737 retreads.
Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by HPsquared on Saturday January 13, 2024 @08:43AM (#38979798)
Short-term thinking seems to be a big factor in all these issues.
Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by wkat4242 on Saturday January 13, 2024 @09:03AM (#38979974)
On the other hand, Airbus went ahead with the A380 and gets a lot of bad press for it ("How could they not have seen this coming").

And the 757 is an old design too.

Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by dgemm on Saturday January 13, 2024 @12:27PM (#38982193)
Depends what you consider "old", but the 757 is from the same era as the A320.
Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by HPsquared on Saturday January 13, 2024 @09:25AM (#38980172)
A380 was an example of "spending now in hope of future return". It was a case of long-term thinking gone wrong.
Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by kergonath on Saturday January 13, 2024 @11:53AM (#38981766)
You cannot avoid mistakes every now and then. At least it had no particular safety issue and is quite a reliable aircraft, and they still made money with it. This is nothing like the issues Boeing is facing.
Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by oskarkk on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:08PM (#38983386)
Sadly, in the end they lost money on it. They came to a point where producing the plane was profitable, but they never recouped the development cost: https://simpleflying.com/was-the-a380-programme-profitable/
Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by p_l on Saturday January 13, 2024 @04:30PM (#38984786)
A lot of A380 development went into A350 and new techniques going in other planes.

Including 787, actually.

Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by closewith on Saturday January 13, 2024 @08:58AM (#38979918)
Obviously the 757 is in the same class as the neos, but they could never have competed with them. Either Boeing continued selling ever more efficient 737s or they risked losing the entire segment to Airbus.
Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by rst on Saturday January 13, 2024 @01:40PM (#38983060)
Upgraded versions of the even older 737 are competing with the neos just fine, if you go by sales placements.
Re:FAA grounds B737 Max 9 for the time being by closewith on Saturday January 13, 2024 @04:08PM (#38984577)
Well, yes, exclusively because of the type rating.