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Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by blitzar on Friday January 12, 2024 @08:41AM (#38967791)
> At will employment is a thing. You can terminate people with absolutely no reason if you want, most of the time.

In which case fire them with no reason. If however you waive that choice and offer a specific reason then you probably should make the chosen reason true unless you want to be sued for wrongful dismissal.

Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by epolanski on Friday January 12, 2024 @03:38PM (#38973681)
You see?

Damn if you do, damn if you don't.

It's then better to just fire and give no motivation whatsoever.

Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by aaomidi on Friday January 12, 2024 @05:29PM (#38975018)
Except this reason was most likely a fabrication due to the fact that they never communicated performance issues in the past.

Cloudflare lied. It’s plain and simple.

Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by epolanski on Friday January 12, 2024 @05:33PM (#38975071)
Or maybe they did and she didn't tell in the TikToks?

Don't believe everything you see on the internet. Be smarter than that, form opinions based on as many facts as possible, not only partial, biased, information.

Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by aaomidi on Friday January 12, 2024 @09:08PM (#38976686)
I have more reason to believe this person than I do cloudflare.
Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by epolanski on Saturday January 13, 2024 @06:53AM (#38979154)
Practice being skeptical.
Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by aaomidi on Saturday January 13, 2024 @07:20AM (#38979308)
You should probably do the same thing.

Given the information, and given what I know about Cloudflare’s internals and how they have behaved, and given how Matthew Prince has been in the past. It is unreasonable to think Cloudflare is in the right here.

Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by westpfelia on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:55PM (#38983868)
Right? I mean who is more likely to be shady and do crooked things? Some person or a business? Can anyone even name a single time when a company has fired someone without real cause and lied?

/S

Re:Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes vi... by valval on Sunday January 14, 2024 @05:58AM (#38989350)
Companies are made of individuals, and individuals can be shady and crooked. In a vacuum, it’s probably somewhat as likely that the person getting fired and the company doing the firing are scumbags. I’d personally argue that companies have more of a reputation to uphold for profitability reasons, and will therefore be incentivised to act less scummy than individuals.

In this case, the company has nothing to gain no matter how they sever the contract. They’re simply getting rid of an employee who was either costing them money, or getting rid of many employees at a time to navigate a difficult economic situation.

The person making the TikTok on the other hand has a lot to gain from making a controversial and attention-grabbing spectacle out of this.