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Re:Hertz to Sell 20k EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars by klodolph on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:33AM (#38964711)
Just need to solve that pesky little storage problem and it will all be coming up roses…
Re:Hertz to Sell 20k EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars by hedora on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:39AM (#38964758)
H2O is a pretty robust storage solution for H2.

The bigger issue is scaling down cracking stations so you can use stranded electricity from solar and wind to generate the H2.

Re:Hertz to Sell 20k EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars by klodolph on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:51AM (#38964845)
That doesn’t make any sense at all. The point of storing H2 is to use it as a way to store energy. If you store it as H2O, you’re not storing energy any more, it’s just water.

It’s like saying, “It’s easy to ship fragile glass sculptures. You just smash them into little bits and put the bits in an envelope, I don’t see why people use all that styrofoam.”

Re:Hertz to Sell 20k EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars by 7speter on Friday January 12, 2024 @08:32AM (#38967698)
>It’s like saying, “It’s easy to ship fragile glass sculptures. You just smash them into little bits and put the bits in an envelope, I don’t see why people use all that styrofoam

You’re obviously not a New Yorker

Re:Hertz to Sell 20k EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars by bbarnett on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:39AM (#38964760)
And here we go. If the storage problem is an issue, how are all these h2 cars getting refueled? And how is the h2 getting to them? And how is it stored before shipping?

It's not a problem. At all.

Re:Hertz to Sell 20k EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars by klodolph on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:52AM (#38964864)
“It’s a problem” is not the same as “it is impossible.”

Likewise, “It’s possible to ship and store H2” is not the same thing as “it’s not a problem to ship and store H2”.

Re:Hertz to Sell 20k EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars by bbarnett on Friday January 12, 2024 @07:51AM (#38967388)
Meanwhile, the presumed "problem" was "preventing adoption", yet my counter point invalidated your statement. H2 is a success. It's storage. It's usable, in consumer driving applications. It's being refueled by consumers, right now, world wide.

It's not a problem. At all.

Re:Hertz to Sell 20k EVs in Shift Back to Gas-Powered Cars by Dylan16807 on Friday January 12, 2024 @06:19PM (#38975505)
The more of a problem something is, the less it gets used. Showing some use doesn't disprove it being a problem. At all.

And nobody said "preventing" adoption, since that's easy to misinterpret.

It's reducing adoption a lot, compared to what it would be if hydrogen was as easy to store as butane or kerosene.