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Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by osigurdson on Monday January 08, 2024 @11:43PM (#38922424)
I thought offshoring happened 20 years ago. I think today, it is more about aishoring, or the dream that it will be possible to do a lot with very few people.
Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by delphico on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @12:07AM (#38922567)
Oh absolutely. The term is new (aishoring). There is chaos though (initial days of aishoring ?) The challenge I see is the following (or the management thought I see is the following)

a) Hire some Junior devs, track them through spyware on the laptops b) Enterprise ChatGPT, Bard, <Insert my own> c) CoPilot d) Spin features out

Some senior folk reviews the code (we pay him top dollar, so 18 hours is reality he/she has to wake up to) As someone to whom this happened (I did not sign up, it was normal till management changed), I can tell you it made me go crazy. 85 hour work weeks (weekends included) took a toll and I quit and took a lower paying position (1 year ago).

Sadly its not getting better, Was conversing with a colleague recently and he told me his new task was to use GenAI to migrate IMS to Java microservices. Kind of chuckled to myself (console by saying: it gets worse, before it gets better)

Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by osigurdson on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @12:50AM (#38922844)
I'm not sure the new model will be senior dev + junior devs + LLMs. Rather it is more likely that it will just be senior dev / person with ideas + LLM. At least that is how it seems that it should work. However, my own empirical evidence runs somewhat counter to that: ChatGPT has a tough time getting the details right. Perhaps in time we will get true amplification.
Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by benterix on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @04:53AM (#38924224)
> As someone to whom this happened

Happened to me too - I just said this shit is generated by ChatGPT and I won't be reviewing it. They didn't insist.

Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by wizerdrobe on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @06:34AM (#38924921)
The trend I’ve seen, and one that actually seems to have decent results, is “near-shoring” to Romania, Ukraine, Brazil or similar.

India has had an “if you’ve got no better options” for most of my career to be honest.

Re:IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023 by delphico on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @10:43AM (#38927382)
Point taken, but there are no black and white options as you'd have seen. I have worked with folks from East European Geo's who are very good and you will find that everywhere.

The volumes (fresh and junior hiring) in India are staggering numbers