For what it's worth I currently play flat games on Quest 3 via Xbox Cloud Gaming (i.e. streaming) [1], in passthrough mode (i.e. mixed reality with the virtual screen floating in the air) using a PS4 controller paired with the Quest 3, and it's definitely very playable, if much lower visual quality than just playing it on a 4K TV (30hrs into Starfield at the moment). But I like it because I can take my giant floating screen in any room of the house or in bed and don't have to stop when my partner wants to use the TV.

I'm pretty sure this will work on day 1 on Vision Pro since Xbox Cloud Gaming already works on Safari with PS/XBox controllers paired to Macs/iPads/iPhones, and with the supposed higher quality display, passthrough, and user interface (the Quest hand tracking is insufferable) I expect it will be even better.

[1]: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2023/12/13/play-xbox-game-pass-w...

While I understand what you mean, you gotta be extremely strapped for space for that to be a true argument. For the 500 bucks a Meta Quest will cost, you could get a pretty decent 4K TV or display. Definitely not the best thing around but its potential uses case and potential future usefulness infinitely better ?!

Personally, I still think VR is mostly something like 3D TV/movies where you end up paying a lot more for nothing of real value, just a novelty factor.

Porn. Your going to use it for porn.

Edit: geez, just don’t have a sense of humor here? Or is it the truth Then you’re downloading this because you’re embarrassed?

It's a valid argument. We got VHS over Betamax because of porn. The VR headset that best supports it is going to win. Since this is Apple, probably not this.

When I was a computer technician for a very large company in the mid 90s, you would not believe how much porn I saw on peoples work computers and they were always complaining about needing a bigger hard drive.

Last thing I listened to was Technology Connections, doing their long-format series on the format wars. According to him, porn haven't played a major role. He highlighted that the beta tapes of the time were shorter and the players a bit more expensive, than the VHS system. Because of this, VHS players sold more, so the market was bigger, so the catalogue, including porn, was bigger as well.

I feel like these tongue in cheek responses mentioning porn being the main use case are pretty cringy. It’s not that hard to accept that other people have different things in mind. Sheesh.

It was tongue in cheek, but it’s true. Just because you can do different things on It doesn’t mean that this is not gonna be a large component of it.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Percentages-of-Internet-...

Humor tends to be downvoted on HN in order to maintain a relatively high signal:noise ratio.

One person‘s noise is another person signal.

I guess „downloading“ was a Freudian slip here… ;)

Honestly, I can't imagine a better use case for this thing.

It's not like users will be allowed to play real games or install a real OS.

I'd like to know how it handles itself when you throw 8K120fps HEVC or AV1 at it. If it can't do that, then how could it ever compete with a $2500 PC and a Valve Index?

I get the entertainment aspect, but come on, don't fool yourself. You won't be more productive with this thing than with your MacBook or any other Laptop.

Sure, but I'm pretty productive with my MacBook too, so I can certainly see myself utilizing the features I described to help out with some struggles of using a single display laptop.

The entertainment aspect is a massive draw too—I don't want to downplay it by any means, but people were asking for some of the reasons that I want one, so I was genuinely answering with some of the features I envision using and how.