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Re:The immediate victims of the con would rather act as if t... by akira2501 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @08:10PM (#38907043)
> Shame and pride are such strong motivators.

That's why they drill them into you in public school.

Re:The immediate victims of the con would rather act as if t... by bigstrat2003 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @08:16PM (#38907086)
They don't need to drill in anything. Shame and pride are intrinsic human nature.
Re:The immediate victims of the con would rather act as if t... by akira2501 on Monday January 08, 2024 @01:20AM (#38908849)
> Shame and pride are intrinsic human nature.

Why do you think this is true?

Re:The immediate victims of the con would rather act as if t... by ithkuil on Monday January 08, 2024 @07:05AM (#38910817)
Because otherwise we wouldn't feel the need to drill it to our kids in school.

Like potty training, obviously if it wasn't for parents teaching basic human stuff our kids would just shit and piss everywhere casually.

/s

We tend to overestimate how much substance we're teaching to other humans, while what we are often doing is passing down "form". And "form" is very important because that's what our social instinct forces us to do, to create differences between us (with the right manners) and them (with the wrong manners)

Re:The immediate victims of the con would rather act as if t... by akira2501 on Monday January 08, 2024 @02:55PM (#38917188)
> Because otherwise we wouldn't feel the need to drill it to our kids in school.

That's pure tautology. It's also the case that no professional agrees with you that these emotions are "intrinsic."

> We tend to overestimate how much substance we're teaching to other humans

What are you basing these assertions on? Personal feeling or are you drawing from some resource that I could also study, because so far, I can't find anything that backs up your points.