News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by echelon on Sunday January 07, 2024 @06:39PM (#38906387)
What signals cause rewiring of the cerebellum?

Is there any way to induce that state exogenously?

Some thoughts include dopamine / pain receptor reinforced learning. Maybe there's a faster way?

Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by armada651 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @07:01PM (#38906541)
> What signals cause rewiring of the cerebellum?

Any signal, that's the point. The cerebellum learns the patterns of signals involved in motor control.

This is why you train your skills by doing the correct movement over and over again. Once the cerebellum has adjusted to the correct motor signal patterns the correct movement will become effortless.

Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by echelon on Sunday January 07, 2024 @08:27PM (#38907175)
> This is why you train your skills by doing the correct movement over and over again.

Yes, but can you make this to go faster?

Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by Balgair on Sunday January 07, 2024 @11:48PM (#38908396)
You'd have to apply an adverse stimulus in under a ~5ms threshold to actions that were 'wrong'. It would depend on the exact task you're trying to do though. That would then cause other areas to potentiate that specific movement/firing as incorrect.

Its a active area of research in sports and DoD. As you'd theoretically be able to train marksmen and athletes at a much faster and better rate. However, even really really fast computers aren't quite fast enough to apply the adverse stimulus to 'wrong' movements/firing.

Also, your computer better be really accurate and never mess up, or that person is going to have a hell of a time retraining their brain. Also, their brain may view that the clouds/temperature/itchy grass/breakfast are the reasons for the adverse stimulus, as this is all happening at in subconscious time frame. So, good luck there.

Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by echelon on Monday January 08, 2024 @09:26AM (#38912325)
This is great info, thanks!
Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by Jensson on Sunday January 07, 2024 @08:41PM (#38907281)
Pain or satisfaction, probably.

When a motion "feels good", or is painful, probably means you learn. So chase those.

Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by Spooky23 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @10:43PM (#38907999)
Train harder. Develop habits.
Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by echelon on Sunday January 07, 2024 @10:53PM (#38908056)
I think we're in the "punch card" phase of biology. I'd be willing to bet (timeline uncertain) that there will be shortcuts to this process.

For now, opportunity cost rules the day. I'm 120% maxed out.

Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by mjan22640 on Monday January 08, 2024 @03:02AM (#38909309)
The pattern of muscle activation timing in the correct move form needs to be figured out by exploration of the space.
Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by echelon on Monday January 08, 2024 @09:29AM (#38912372)
We don't typically efficiently explore the space. This is why coaches exist.

The feedback loops are often long. Getting a review on a performance, etc.

If a device were set up to trigger pain within some milliseconds of an incorrect activation, surely we could speed this up?

Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by Podgajski on Sunday January 07, 2024 @07:43PM (#38906858)
I’m going to say it’s all about the glutamate.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38475-9

Re:What Does the Cerebellum Do? by willy_k on Sunday January 07, 2024 @10:03PM (#38907769)
Psilocybin and other psychedelics may be that exogenous agent, they release Brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF) [0], which plausibly could cause “rewiring of the cerebellum” [1][2], and may even do this with sub-perceptible (micro)doses [3].

[0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37280397/

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-022-01389-z

[2] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.7246...

[3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8033605/