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Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by Cthulhu_ on Sunday January 07, 2024 @12:09PM (#38902954)
They are facts; what your reaction or feelings about those facts are, is not a question of opinion and/or politics, but of morals and values. The question is not "is the murder of a child in line with my political views", it's "is the murder of a child in line with my own morals", which transcends politics.
Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by flumpcakes on Sunday January 07, 2024 @01:06PM (#38903483)
The death of a child in a war can be against someones' morals but legal and not an act of genocide. For example, when fighting child soldiers, or human shields, etc.
Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by mandmandam on Sunday January 07, 2024 @01:34PM (#38903792)
What's your definition of genocide?

Surely when every major genocide researcher and lawyer, human rights groups, etc are all shouting at the top of their lungs that this is the worst genocide this century, you'd try a little harder to make your case.

I call what's happening in Gaza and the WB genocide. Clearly, and to a horrific degree.

I have nightmares about it that linger with me for weeks. I've seen full HD horrors and atrocities being committed for 92 days now.

I've seen outrageous lies - beheaded babies, mass rapes - promulgated by corporate media and even the POTUS, all as a thousand very real babies have been murdered. Netanyahu is still repeating the beheaded babies lie. It's farcical, and I truly believe that only a highly deranged mind could fall for it. And yet at least 80% of Israelis think there hasn't been enough violence. It's a horror beyond comprehension.

I don't get why people are tolerating such genocide denial tbh. It's nice that we're so polite here, but like ... read the room. And by the room, I mean the vast majority of every single population outside of Israel; who all want the same thing: just stop killing so many people Israel, ffs.

Just stop killing people, and treat them like humans. It's not a big ask. It's not political. It's important, and if you try to tell people not to talk about it you can expect pushback.

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by sigzero on Sunday January 07, 2024 @02:51PM (#38904534)
Genocide: the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

Israel is not genocidal. Hamas IS genocidal. Everyone shouting "from the mountains to the sea" IS genocidal.

Hamas did kill babies. Your willful blind eye to the actual facts on the ground is astounding.

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by tptacek on Sunday January 07, 2024 @03:19PM (#38904761)
First off: nobody is shouting "from the mountains to the sea". That's not a thing. You mean "from the river to the sea" --- the Jordan River being a claimed historical western border of Palestine and of "Greater Israel".

Second off: it is manifestly not the case that everyone shouting that slogan is genocidal. One indication of that: Israel has used the slogan itself. Most people who use it probably don't really even know what it means, as seems to have been the case there.

Third: please stop declaiming. It's not persuasive, it doesn't teach anybody anything, and it pumps cortisol into the thread. You don't have to have a thing to say here. Sometimes it's best just to let charged threads like these die down on their own.

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by flumpcakes on Sunday January 07, 2024 @02:04PM (#38904114)
Hamas did commit mass rape, they did murder babies. You're either a delusional antisemite or grossly misinformed. Why don't you review what Hamas wants to do to all Israelis and Jews globally: https://www.thisishamas.com/

> Surely when every major genocide researcher and lawyer, human rights groups, etc are all shouting at the top of their lungs that this is the worst genocide this century, you'd try a little harder to make your case.

Then they probably hold antisemitic beliefs because this isn't even in the top 5 this century: Ukraine, Ethiopia, Yemen, IS, South Sudan, Uyghur, Myanmar, etc.

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by tptacek on Sunday January 07, 2024 @03:24PM (#38904799)
You're either a delusional antisemite or grossly misinformed is a mess of a sentence. You can't write like that here. Everybody in this orange collegium is misinformed about all sorts of things, sometimes even grossly. You don't respond to that by saying "you are grossly misinformed", but rather by calmly correcting the underlying facts and ideas that were wrong. That's how a conversation works. Here, you're not even prosecuting; you're doing something even harsher.