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Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by Arainach on Sunday January 07, 2024 @11:30AM (#38902532)
.....such as?
Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by DiggyJohnson on Sunday January 07, 2024 @11:37AM (#38902592)
It depends on whether you see everything as political or not. Let’s choose a children’s story. What about Harry Potter?

“Of course it's happening inside your head, Harry, but why should that mean it's not real?”

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by Arainach on Sunday January 07, 2024 @11:54AM (#38902784)
The Harry Potter where the villains talk about racial purity, kill people who mix magical and non-magical blood, take over the government and use it to oppress people? That non-political Harry Potter?

(Yes, also the Harry Potter where one of the black characters is named Shacklebolt, the goblins are essentially a loosely tied pile of Jewish stereotypes, and plenty of other problems as well)

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by ThrowawayR2 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @01:29PM (#38903736)
You know you've gone off the deep end when you start thinking of Harry Potter as something that contains intentional political messaging instead of something that overuses convenient off-the-shelf tropes for villains and everything else but manages to tell an engaging tale in spite of it.
Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by Arainach on Sunday January 07, 2024 @04:13PM (#38905189)
In a perfect world, "racism isn't bad" wouldn't be a political message, it would be a common sense belief that everyone shared, but America and plenty of other places are still in a point where that's controversial and significant portions of the voting base are proud of their bigotry.
Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by Arainach on Sunday January 07, 2024 @09:28PM (#38907589)
*is bad.

What a typo to miss...

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by wishinghand on Sunday January 07, 2024 @02:22PM (#38904272)
I think that if you think those tropes are just tropes and not intentional political messaging, then there is no longer any point in discussion with your level of reading comprehension.
Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by bigbillheck on Monday January 08, 2024 @12:52PM (#38915541)
> convenient off-the-shelf tropes for villains and everything else

You know how people say 'not making a choice is a choice'? Same thing here.

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by badpun on Sunday January 07, 2024 @03:26PM (#38904821)
For example, most of the greatest classics, e.g. "Anna Karenina", "East of Eden", "Mice and Men", "The Idiot", "Crime and Punishment", "Frankenstein" etc. etc.
Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by Arainach on Sunday January 07, 2024 @04:38PM (#38905399)
You think "Crime and Punishment" is non-political? Have you read it? Have you read the Wikipedia summary of it? Dostoyevsky is deeply political.

"These books were written long enough ago that their political arguments have been internalized in modern cultures and no longer seem controversial" does not make a work non-political. Nor does "this book only espouses views I agree with" or "I did not understand the political topics raised in this work".

From your entire list:

* Anna Karenina: Talks about rural and urban life, faith, and social change in the 19th century

* Of Mice and Men: Talks about black people being isolated and threats of lyching. The premise of the story centers around an incident involving whether people are mentally capable of being found guilty (and false accusations)

* The Idiot: Centers around society's treatment of those perceived as idiots and/or socially inept. That's still a relevant political topic today and, for its time, was at least as relevant as modern works focusing on marginalized groups such as LGBTQ, etc. It also deeply dives into religion and atheism (political hot topics then and now). It has a long monologue about capital punishment.

* Crime and Punishment: The entire novel is a critique of nihilism, very much a cultural and political part of Russian society at a time, with thoughts on utilitarianism and rationalism. It's a deep dive into the radicalization of people. It also criticizes Western ideas.

I'm not going to bother with the rest, as it's clear to me you're just naming books you don't understand.

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by badpun on Sunday January 07, 2024 @04:46PM (#38905468)
> Anna Karenina: Talks about rural and urban life, faith, and social change in the 19th century

Yes. But does not talk that much about politics. Unless for you the above things somehow count as politics?

> The Idiot: Centers around society's treatment of those perceived as idiots and/or socially inept.

Have you even read it? It's about someone so good that people treat him as an idiot. It's about morality, not politics.

> Crime and Punishment: The entire novel is a critique of nihilism, very much a cultural and political part of Russian society at a time, with thoughts on utilitarianism and rationalism. It's a deep dive into the radicalization of people. It also criticizes Western ideas.

Again, this is philosophy, not politics.

Re:Comics I Loved in 2023 by Arainach on Sunday January 07, 2024 @04:50PM (#38905505)
Politics is just applied philosophy. Most topics that are political do not necessarily involve the government. If it political to say "this person is gay", it is ABSOLUTELY political to say "this person is a nihilist and look at all the trouble that causes"