Re:Pg – UN vote shows how isolated we are from world opinion
by beastman82 on Friday January 05, 2024 @02:23PM
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His two proposed explanations are laughably reductive
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Re:Pg – UN vote shows how isolated we are from world opinion
by whatshisface on Friday January 05, 2024 @02:30PM
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Using a place of refuge as the US' too-dirty-for-the-CIA instrument of deniable espionage, for going on 50 years now, has created a lot of ties the public is totally ignorant of and the rest of the world blames Israel for.
If there is one thing to take away from the existence of the "Israeli foreign lobby" conspiracy theory it is that public ignorance of international relationships leads to impactful confusions as people seek to explain what is advertised by the mainstream in terms of ideas advertised by extremists rather than facts that have not been advertised at all.
Re:Pg – UN vote shows how isolated we are from world opinion
by zozbot234 on Friday January 05, 2024 @02:39PM
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That "too dirty for the CIA [sic]" country is still the freest and most highly developed of the entire Middle East, and that's without the fossil resource-based economy that many Arab countries have. It's not a dirty place, it's a shining city on the hill that's been hated so much because of how it puts everywhere else to shame.
Re:Pg – UN vote shows how isolated we are from world opinion
by text0404 on Friday January 05, 2024 @04:16PM
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> That "too dirty for the CIA [sic]" country is still the freest and most highly developed of the entire Middle East
yeah, if you ignore apartheid against 5 million Palestinians. sudan is also the freest and most highly developed nation in africa if you ignore the violence and economy and status as a failed state.
Re:Pg – UN vote shows how isolated we are from world opinion
by whatshisface on Friday January 05, 2024 @02:41PM
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The country isn't what's dirty, it's what they have been doing at the behest of the united states all around the world that's "too dirty for the CIA," in the sense that tasks are offloaded to their intelligence services as a way of distancing the CIA from those tasks. That is why Israel and the US are such strong allies despite there not really having been much of a war.
The people who say Israel is getting anything "for free" are ignorant of the heavy ethical price Israel pays through its singular intelligence services for its unique relationship.