Re:Cheap and They Don't Snitch: Drones Are the New Drug Mules
by ttt11199907 on Friday January 05, 2024 @02:16PM
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There may not be societal costs in the consuming country, but there are certainly negative externalities to the people/countries that produce the coffee beans
Re:Cheap and They Don't Snitch: Drones Are the New Drug Mules
by rootusrootus on Friday January 05, 2024 @03:07PM
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I don't know, the guy in Kona running the coffee farm seemed pretty happy. And the coffee was great (and I typically dislike coffee! It was that good...)
In any case, legal production can be regulated in ways that illegal crops cannot. It's hard to draw a legitimate comparison.
Re:Cheap and They Don't Snitch: Drones Are the New Drug Mules
by bequanna on Friday January 05, 2024 @02:33PM
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I guess I don't consider this a legit argument. You could point to negative externalities that are the result of literally everything humans produce/consume.
But if we want to use that metric, OK. I would venture a guess that the production of coffee yields a heck of a lot less suffering than the production of cocaine, heroin or meth. Any far fewer people consume the latter.
Re:Cheap and They Don't Snitch: Drones Are the New Drug Mules
by bb88 on Friday January 05, 2024 @02:46PM
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Also to further your point: consider blood diamonds, mining of toxic substances, lead batteries, plastic in the oceans, etc.
Re:Cheap and They Don't Snitch: Drones Are the New Drug Mules
by ttt11199907 on Saturday January 06, 2024 @08:13AM
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Yes! These are all things that rely on the subjugation and abuse of other human and are bad for our earth-spaceship
Re:Cheap and They Don't Snitch: Drones Are the New Drug Mules
by dleink on Friday January 05, 2024 @03:26PM
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Alcohol would be a great comparison. Alcohol causes more deaths (and presumably human suffering) than illegal drugs. Only recently has the Opioid crisis caused a dent in these stats.
Re:Cheap and They Don't Snitch: Drones Are the New Drug Mules
by paulddraper on Friday January 05, 2024 @03:37PM
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Even sugar would be a better comparison than coffee.
Coffee vs meth or heroin does even come close to ringing true. What are the individual or societal costs to consuming coffee? Both approach zero.