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Re:Are roads the biggest driver of ecological destruction? by explaininjs on Friday January 05, 2024 @05:39AM (#38877656)
But nobody builds a road to nowhere. You only build a road when there is demand, often from property owners, to be able to reach a place more easily. Thus I repeat the issue is not the roads, they are merely a consequence of the property ownership increasing travel to a remote area.

Consider: would a road nobody traveled on be any issue for the tortoises? Clearly not.

Re:Are roads the biggest driver of ecological destruction? by defrost on Friday January 05, 2024 @05:47AM (#38877705)
Roads are built through "nowhere" all the time .. to join one city to another several thousand miles away with no other "civilisation" between.

To join a port to an inland mine site.

Once you have a road where once there was no road and no easy access to the land within then people can follow.

> But nobody builds a road to nowhere.

See: Gunbarrel Highway - a road system from a launch point out into "nowhere" in order to retrieve test missiles.

Re:Are roads the biggest driver of ecological destruction? by explaininjs on Friday January 05, 2024 @05:52AM (#38877732)
Connecting two occupied points is the exact opposite of building a road to nowhere.

And see my point here about “linear” roads (connecting point to point) vs space-filling ones (providing access to an entire grid of houses). In short, an animal can exist very easily in the proximity of a single highway, but existing surrounded by development is a much harder task.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38877692

Re:Are roads the biggest driver of ecological destruction? by defrost on Friday January 05, 2024 @06:07AM (#38877841)
> Connecting two occupied points is the exact opposite of building a road to nowhere.

I'm at a loss as to why you even bought it up. My intial comment here:

     roads | train lines built to connect A and B will often be followed by small townsites along the way and the spread of "off the grid" living at blocks T junctioning dirt road access from the new A <--> B route.
was about development following roads that connect places and that development expanding outwards into what was once "nowhere".