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Re:Power over fiber by rubidium on Thursday January 04, 2024 @08:51AM (#38866948)
Agreed. A 40W 1550nm laser I used in grad school would burn post it notes readily and slowly burn black painted objects. It gave me a little burn once too (Was like touching a hot stove). 1.5W focused to 100 um would be a zinger, but at 4 mm would be not super dangerous thermally.

The main risk is you couldn’t see it so no blink reflex to help from even specular reflections.

Regardless, it would be reckless to expose this to people without eye protection.

Re:Power over fiber by weberer on Thursday January 04, 2024 @09:32AM (#38867439)
I think your laser was 40mW. A 40W laser can engrave steel.
Re:Power over fiber by NietzscheanNull on Thursday January 04, 2024 @10:00AM (#38867783)
Judging by the fact that they mentioned being in grad school at the time and that the laser was infrared, I imagine engraving steel isn't too far off from what they were using it for.
Re:Power over fiber by BenjiWiebe on Thursday January 04, 2024 @10:04AM (#38867831)
But they mentioned it would slowly burn black painted objects.
Re:Power over fiber by gorlilla on Thursday January 04, 2024 @07:58PM (#38874380)
It's all about absorption spectrum. 40W at 10600nm will burn clean through a few mm of wood but could only maybe lightly etch brass and be utterly useless on aluminum. 40W of energy is being delivered, what happens to the thing it's being delivered to is entirely dependent on absorptive potential.
Re:Power over fiber by xxs on Thursday January 04, 2024 @10:59AM (#38868543)
Agree on the 3 orders of magnitude difference. 40W soldering iron will inflate post-it notes, 40W laser steel/stone engraving/cutting area.
Re:Power over fiber by cycomanic on Thursday January 04, 2024 @12:39PM (#38869887)
Depends highly on wavelength and pulse length. IIRC the vast majority of laser engraving lasers are pulsed (the cheaper ones are probably qswitched) so 40W actually gives you peak powers much higher than 40W.

Igniting something is actually quite different from cutting or engraving. Lasers are often so good at cutting because they don't deliver enough energy to set things on fire, but enough inatantaneous intensity to rip molecules apart (have a look at comparisons between femtosecond and nanosecond laser cutting for example).

Re:Power over fiber by rubidium on Thursday January 04, 2024 @01:29PM (#38870509)
Beg your pardon, but I think I would know (PhD in experimental AMO physics).

It was one of these: https://www.ipgphotonics.com/en/products/lasers/low-power-cw...

Re:Power over fiber by avsteele on Thursday January 04, 2024 @06:32PM (#38873733)
Guy's name is literally rubidium!
Re:Power over fiber by galangalalgol on Thursday January 04, 2024 @09:32AM (#38867440)
Could a fiber break in the wall ignite the sheath? What if the Sheath broke as well and it is up against the cardboard backing of drywall? Worst case, cellulose insulation?
Re:Power over fiber by cycomanic on Thursday January 04, 2024 @12:21PM (#38869661)
Cellulose insulation is in fact very flame retardent. But to your question yes if the broken fibre was stuck against something flammable it could slowly ignite it.